Update on NPPL Trigger Bounce Rule

[Yamz]

just one more question when it was said that there were not having problems with AGD markers was that to include the e/x-mags in hybrid mode

[Miscue]

Lovely. Looks like just the actually unsafe markers will be effected... just as it should be.

/me hugs his RTP.

[WickedAirSportz]

Mr. Drew totally disappoints me with his now obvious biased spin on the ruling.

There was no biasing at all. The rules were quite simple... no reactive triggers were allowed. It was brought up one time, and immediately shut down. There was no further discussion as this was an open and shut case. Those that had Tipmann markers had to pull their RT triggers out or lock them so the reactive portion did not work. A trigger pull is defined as a manual pull and release. By definition a reactive trigger is illegal... period.

I was there sitting with Dave, and we chatted through out the Huntington Beach event about what markers were violating the trigger bounce rules, and the E-Blade was by far the worst.

[ezrunner]

Wicked

WickedAirSports:

What is your take on the electro cockers? Have you tuned any to get as close as posible without going reactive?

What markers do you see as problematic and how do we overcome this?

-rob

[Jerhew]

Originally posted by WickedAirSportz

There was no biasing at all. The rules were quite simple... no reactive triggers were allowed. It was brought up one time, and immediately shut down. There was no further discussion as this was an open and shut case. Those that had Tipmann markers had to pull their RT triggers out or lock them so the reactive portion did not work. A trigger pull is defined as a manual pull and release. By definition a reactive trigger is illegal... period.

I was there sitting with Dave, and we chatted through out the Huntington Beach event about what markers were violating the trigger bounce rules, and the E-Blade was by far the worst.

um okay but Tom just got done saying that none of the AGD markers will be affected...

so which is it?
was the no rt's a temporary ruling just for huntington?

[CaptainChops]

**me sighs** Guess I'll play the part of the dummie that hasn't played paintball in a really long time... Could somebody explain the whole trigger bounce thing? It'd be greatly appreciated...

[Jerhew]

basically it's setting up a gun so that if you put just the right amount of pressure on a trigger, it'll go full auto

this seems to happen more with electro's...apparently eblade cockers being one of the biggest offenders

i dunno for sure though...i shoot an rt and it doesnt do that

[Bob Mundon]

well, if you buy a trigger rebound kit for a real gun it shoots like full auto, but is still legal semi auto. i hope they dont ban hybrid mode for the xmag before i have a chance to try it lol

can anyone give me details on it? ive shot an xmag once but his tank was sucking fumes so i couldnt do anything reactive.

[srrdude]

so if i get an e-blade i cant use it in tournies? Correct me if im wrong, but isnt the trigger a whole lot like the emags trigger? And how are they goin to test this trigger bounce?

[Jerhew]

allow me to clarify
an eblade can be set up to bounce...but it apparently can also be set up legally
the reason i've heard of why the eblade is apparently a bigger offender is because the extra moving parts on a cocker...they cause more recoil which apparently makes it really easy to bounce
once again this is just what i've heard...

[srrdude]

and how are they gonna judge this? they gonna check EVERY game i play to make sure it doesnt bounce? and whos gonna get thhe final call on whether its legal or not? ive been workin on a custom e-blade and before i order the e-blade i better know how this is gonna work...

[WickedAirSportz]

and how are they gonna judge this?

No less than 6 different methods will be used.

they gonna check EVERY game i play to make sure it doesnt bounce?

At NPPL events, they certainly will. You don't chrono your own marker before going on to the field, the chrono ref does. This ref also checks for trigger bounce.

and whos gonna get thhe final call on whether its legal or not?

The chrono ref has the final say.

[Yamz]

this rule is starting to get complicated

[srrdude]

so im not the only one...

[WickedAirSportz]

At the Huntington Beach event, everything went very smoothly. The team on deck was at the check-in/chrono station. Each player handed the chrono ref their marker, and the marker was checked for bounce and velocity. If a marker is going to bounce, there is a 99% chance that the chrono ref can make it happen almost instantly. This process did not hold up any games during the event.