Tom Kaye WILL be at NorCal vs. SoCal AO Day!!!!

[Curly]

RoadDawg, I think thats fine, but the topic has been exhausted, so lets please drop it.

[No sKiLLz]

Ignore the principal of the matter. This isn't about AGD, this is about Californias civil war. Help us hoist the Dixie flag when we give NorCal a new paintjob. I'll bring my Wagner.

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by Curly
RoadDawg, I think thats fine, but the topic has been exhausted, so lets please drop it.

Exhausted or ignored?

[hitech]

Originally posted by Blennidae
I think you guys did a great job, everyone should be thanking you for your hard work...

I have to agree.

[funkmunky56]

so, what's your option? Tell AGD to go screw themselves, and not show up? I mean, come on, it IS an Automags.Org event... you'd think official company representation would be a good thing.

If you don't want this to be an Automags.Org (owned by AGD, one might point out) sponsored event, with advertising on the website, and the support of AO and AGD in general...

...go start your own f'in owners group.

no one's trying to step on toes, or "backstab" anyone here. That's PBNation talk, and should be reserved for the junior high schoolers that spew retardation there. AO is based on support of the sport, and the people that play it, without BS and hype.

my 2 cents. --Dave

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by funkmunky56
so, what's your option? Tell AGD to go screw themselves, and not show up? I mean, come on, it IS an Automags.Org event... you'd think official company representation would be a good thing.

If you don't want this to be an Automags.Org (owned by AGD, one might point out) sponsored event, with advertising on the website, and the support of AO and AGD in general...

...go start your own f'in owners group.

no one's trying to step on toes, or "backstab" anyone here. That's PBNation talk, and should be reserved for the junior high schoolers that spew retardation there. AO is based on support of the sport, and the people that play it, without BS and hype.

my 2 cents. --Dave

Temper temper temper.

We are basically expressing that it isn't right to under cut your dealers. Especially when the dealers are pretty much the ONLY line of support out this way unless we go via internet. Don't get me wrong. We like the fact that AGD is coming. We like the fact Tato is coming. We DON'T like the fact that this has the opportunity to hurt our local dealers.

We are just saying this so people realize they are going to a West Coast event and not having a West Coast Rep up there bolstering sales. I know that if RF could go he would and apparently the same with Jeff Pball Daddy. Even Miscue wants to go but now can't afford to. He would of been a heck of a lot cheaper and at least West Coast enough that it'd seem logical.

I know tato isn't representing his shop. If he was you'd believe we would be pissed. Alas he's not, which makes us cool with him coming. Right now our purpose is to inform the public and let them see that this still isn't right. It'd be like having a west coast rep undercutting the East coast rep through approval of AGD. I'm sure the East Coast wouldn't mind the west coast being there but under cutting their costs would piss people off. Much like it is doing here.

Anyhow. All we want is recognition of the fact that it has the potential of hurting our local guys who we SUPPORT. After all many times are we left alone to fight the fight for AGD out here. With them doing this to the dealers it's like slapping them in the face.

Open your eyes and see the sun light or keep them closed and pretend this isn't going on. It's the people's choice.

On a side note: If you haven't noticed most of the quality of posts are turning PBNish due to them coming over here and from other forums. This is still a forum where people can come and EXPRESS their opinions and reserve the right to call people on an injustice if done so in limits to the terms and conditions. Also why would we tell AGD to screw off when WE ARE THEIR SUPPORT OUT THIS WAY. That is foolish talk. As a marketing person I see that AGD is doing things backwards. Marketing is a costly thing but it's the spontaneous buyers in store that get companies somewhere. If people can't see it or shoot it they are most likely NOT gonna buy it. Get items into stores by not hurting your dealers or store owners. Or else no one is gonna wanna support a company that doesn't support them.

[Steelrat]

How 'bout them Mets, eh?

[RoadDawg]

How bout them packers eh. Talk about blowing it.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

People...I think this subject has been pretty much flogged to death. I understand that there are issues here, but I think you guys are forgetting that Z-Man and cast originally put this together as a bunch of California guys/girls coming together and having a great day of paintball. Can we please just drop this because everything that was needed to say has been said time and time and time again. Personally I'm tired of hearing all this bickering back and forth. Leave it to politics to screw things up. I'm going to have fun, so lets not spoil the atmosphere here ok?

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

P.S. You ain't just whistline dixie..huray huray....cause you ain't just whistling dixie...

[RoadDawg]

Martin, I'm going up for fun either way. I just feel more at peace by speaking what I feel is wrong. I still plan on going and having fun cause their is a slim chance anything will change. Just opted to voice my thoughts rather then keeping them inside. It has been flogged but it seems people interpret what I say totally different and focus on one point. They think we have a problem with Tato. When in fact we don't. Anyways I'm starting my rant again so I'll stop.

Any luck finding the southern do rags?

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

I think the do rags are a lost cause..other then you and I..no one really seemed interested haha

[RoadDawg]

Well... that stinks. Still like the beard idea though.

[USAF-Flyboy with a Mag]

haha yeah so any word on the vehicle? I look into renting an explorer with my discount it came to 170 for the weekend

[RoadDawg]

That include mileage? I'm yet to hear anything back. Your CRX not have much room or what? My girl said she'd ride all the way in a small back seat if she had to. Just as long as we get out and stretch every couple hours or so. We aren't packing a lot. Either way I'll get back to you on if we can get the car or not.