nppl cap rule?

[Gadget]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Actually its not. Its capped at 20 bps, as opposed to NO cap on many and most other high end electros. My info came straight fomr AGD. If you think im bashing mags, just read my above post.

...and does the lack of a cap actually translate to a higher ROF...or is it just a marketing ploy to sucker the easily deluded into thinking it makes the marker better?

Ooo that's a toughie, let me think.....

[RoadDawg]

My Emag has a cap of 26. Then again I have 4.0 beta test so it still has bugs and I can hit a faster rof then ever. I don't see how you can really enforce a bps when some markers don't have a adjust or cap limit. Installing new boards isn't. I for one see that if they do put a limit on most will jump to the PSP and the NPPL will fail. Plus if someone is using a mechanical marker then how do you limit those guys. Especially with the ULT. I know someone who can personally walk a ULT'ed mag as fast as any electro. How would they limit those types of things? just doesn't seem as easy as all would think.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Miscue
Squid... hush.

uhh, no. Im chiming in my two cents on the matter and everybody is freaking out.


Gadget - yes, removing a cap will make a marker shoot faster. That was easy.

Guys, stop freaking out, im as pro mag as everyone, but my previous post still stands. Not the first one

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
even with 3.2 They have a 20bps cap, meaning you can only hit 15-17 tops.

WTF are you talking about?

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


WTF are you talking about?

Did I include wrong information? Sorry if I did, but it has been my knowledge (as well as what the screen says on the emag board) that they are capped at 20 bps...

[Gadget]

Uh no, not having a cap means that the marker can _theoretically_ cycle faster - it doesn't mean that you or I or Joe Bloggs can actually fire it faster.

I dunno how fast I can pull a trigger, but I do know that I sure as hell can't do it 20 times a second, so the presence of a cap is irrelevant.

I'd quit while you're ahead son, you're just making yourself look a bit daft.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Gadget
Uh no, not having a cap means that the marker can _theoretically_ cycle faster - it doesn't mean that you or I or Joe Bloggs can actually fire it faster.

I dunno how fast I can pull a trigger, but I do know that I sure as hell can't do it 20 times a second, so the presence of a cap is irrelevant.

I'd quit while you're ahead son, you're just making yourself look a bit daft.

There is barely a point arguing this anymore. Look at it like this... you and I both know angels, timmys, vikings, and half of everything else is faster than an EMAG, heck, IMO an RTP is! You guys are just misinterpreting my posts, and getting extremely defensive.

EDIT: If your gonna call me son, I should get to call you old man

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
Did I include wrong information? Sorry if I did, but it has been my knowledge (as well as what the screen says on the emag board) that they are capped at 20 bps...

I'm was curious how a 20 bps cap = 16-17 max ROF.Since I'm sure your aware that 3.2 w/ tha added shot buffering allows max ROF to meet and in many cases slightly exceed the cap.

[Gadget]

..and you'd be right the way I feel atm

I think we'll have to disagree on this, because the fact is that an E-Mag ISN'T slower than any of those markers you've mentioned - unless they're setup for illegal runaway or bounce.

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


I'm was curious how a 20 bps cap = 16-17 max ROF.Since I'm sure your aware that 3.2 w/ tha added shot buffering allows max ROF to meet and in many cases slightly exceed the cap.

I wasnt aware they had shot buffering.

And yes, gadget, we do have to disagree. I think emags are some of the slowest electros out there, again, dont take this as an AGD attack or some crap, and that is the exact reason I bought a viking and NOT an emag.

Either way, carry on the original topic because this is getting stupid.

[bunkermaster10]

Well I think that emags are slow by the way its harder to get easy BPS then like timmys and trixes etc. Because they( Timmys etc.) are so easy to walk and rip on. But I haven't shot the 3.2 yet or 4.0. So I'm just saying most other electros are easier to shot faster with because the triggers are NICE, plus WAS is crazy! I'm not saying emags are slow....

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by bunkermaster10
Well I think that emags are slow by the way its harder to get easy BPS then like timmys and trixes etc. Because they( Timmys etc.) are so easy to walk and rip on. But I haven't shot the 3.2 yet or 4.0. So I'm just saying most other electros are easier to shot faster with because they triggers are NICE! I'm not saying emags are slow....

I agree with you.That's one reason why I stopped shooting Emags,until my current Xmag and 3.2 software.That and a sweet blade trigger(wink,wink)puts it in the same ballpark as all the rest if both are legally set up.

Jay.

[bunkermaster10]

Ya I would own a emag to, if it had a nice blade trigger and was super easy to walk on. Because I really do like AGD.

[Beemer]

one more time can you say safety

Originally posted by -=Squid=-

beemer - that made no sense at all. I dont even know what to say to that, as every word seems out of place.

When you learn more you will understand.

The ones makeing sense here know who you are so I will not do the repeat thing

One thing is constant and that is change.

The mag is capped for a reason.

Playing for 17yrs and still have both my eyes,I hope you will be able to say the same and I have been put to my knees and my back from close up head hits


heres a clue for ya can you say ANSI,ASTM

[-=Squid=-]

Re: one more time can you say safety

Originally posted by Beemer


When you learn more you will understand.

The ones makeing sense here know who you are so I will not do the repeat thing

One thing is constant and that is change.

The mag is capped for a reason.

Playing for 17yrs and still have both my eyes,I hope you will be able to say the same and I have been put to my knees and my back from close up head hits


heres a clue for ya can you say ANSI,ASTM

What do you mean "know who I am?"

I understand the mag is capped for a reason. It is because the solenoid will melt if it goes much higher than 20bps.

I reread your post, and apologize for saying you made no sense. It just didnt occur to me what you were saying, so I blurted something stupid. My apologies.

HOWEVER! I still say that there is no need to drop the cap. It would be a bad move.