nppl cap rule?

[~WarpedRT#2~]

Can we remember that it's not the speed of a gun that counts? It's the player behind the gun. The guy who is pointing it. Thats what really important.

As for Viking, who cares? They are the flavor of the month, and they will be gone soon. Who cares if they arent capped. With WAS releasing figures like 40+ cps, it makes everyone crazy to get the "fastest" gun. I rememebr back when I had my Piranha, I used to go play with guys with Angels who had been playing for years, and I'd still take them out. Rate of fire no longer intimidates me, It now only means they spend more on paint than I do, and thats fine with me.

[agdemagman69]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~
As for Viking, who cares? They are the flavor of the month, and they will be gone soon.

BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol j/k

[Jack & Coke]

Squid,

Am I correct in reading your last post as: 13bps is "slow"?

Also, could you please give me a number (bps) for "fast"?

thanks again

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by ~WarpedRT#2~

As for Viking, who cares? They are the flavor of the month, and they will be gone soon.

uhhh, no they arent. They are fast as a timmy, more effcient than ANY other marker, VERY Hard to make it chop... I mean, name one bad thing about it, please. I dare you.


Jack & coke - yes, I think a 13bps capped marker is slow. Why are you asking questions that you already know how I will answer?

[GA Devil]

with as much problems a cap would cause with paintball companies (actual Paintball) I dont see a cap happening. That means sales at events would drop for players. Sales of actual paintballs that is. Everyone in the industry seems to have their hand in each others pockets somewhere along the road so I dont see paintball manufacturers losing money just to cap ROF or loader manufacturers cause noby will run more then needed to save the wieght of the halo. to many ways for cheats as well. You can make a board do anything you want it to do when ever you want with the right programer. only way for them to check is a chrono sting which isnt happening in the middle of a game. As for what gun is slow or not...it gets the job done right? Thats what counts. But i wouldnt count on companies losing money just to slow the game down a bit.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-

Jack & coke - yes, a 13bps capped marker is slow. Why are you asking questions that you already know the answer to?

Squid,

I know what I think these BPS numbers are.

I just don't know what you think these BPS numbers are.

I'm just trying to ask what BPS "slow", "medium", and "fast" mean to you.

IMHO, since I still play pump and mechanical, "slow" is about 4-8, "medium" is about 8-12, and anything else above 12 is "fast".

But that's from my opinion - which, without a doubt, will differ from someone elses. I know this and don't disagree as we all are accustomed to different playing styles.

So please, I ask you again:

"slow" = ?

"medium" = ?

"fast" = ?

in BPS

thanks!

[-=Squid=-]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke


Squid,

I know what I think these BPS numbers are.

I just don't know what you think these BPS numbers are.

I'm just trying to ask what BPS "slow", "medium", and "fast" mean to you.

IMHO, since I still play pump and mechanical, "slow" is about 4-8, "medium" is about 8-12, and anything else above 12 is "fast".

But that's from my opinion - which, without a doubt, will differ from someone elses. I know this and don't disagree as we all are accustomed to different playing styles.

So please, I ask you again:

"slow" = ?

"medium" = ?

"fast" = ?

in BPS

thanks!

In my opinnion

Slow = anything capped around 13bps or so

medium = 15-18 bps (or capped at something like 20bps)

fast = uncapped, or easy to obtain 18+ bps (morlock, WAS, vapor...)

Again, these are my opinions. Like you said, everybody has them, so I will not bash anothers, as long as somebody doesnt say mine are "Wrong." I hope I finally made a legitamate point that you all get, so you will stop acting like im saying mags are slow and decrepid, and total crap...which I thought I made clear that they werent. I like mags, thats why I post here I just think emags are slow compared to other ridiculously fast guns.

[Gadget]

Erm, so if someone has an E-Mag with a nicely setup trigger which they can walk at 18-19bps, then it qualifies as 'fast' according to your criteria? The cap is meaningless UNLESS you can actually fire faster than the cap.

I know for certain that I can't pull a trigger 20 times a second, so having a cap is irrelevant to the speed of the marker unless we're talking about cheaty bounce.

18bps on an E-Mag is just as fast as 18bps on a Viking.

[lord1234]

i can do 18 bps EASILY on my xmag...dunno what the hell you are talkin about.

[bunkermaster10]

Throw in my opionion about BPS-

Low- 5-10
Med- 11-15
High- 16+

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by bunkermaster10
Throw in my opionion about BPS-

My opinion is that paintball players claiming how fast their marker or finger is are often absolutely full of it.









Oh I'm sorry, b_P_s.

[-=Squid=-]

God this has gotten stupid.

[shartley]

Originally posted by bunkermaster10
Throw in my opionion about BPS-

Low- 5-10
Med- 11-15
High- 16+

I would generally agree with those numbers.

Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
[B]

My opinion is that paintball players claiming how fast their marker or finger is are often absolutely full of it.

Oh I'm sorry, bP[\b]s.

And I DEFINITELY agree with that!

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by -=Squid=-
ok, before I go insane and say something stupid, im going to end this.

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
BTW, I don't think I have ever seen live, or video clip of anyone shooting their gun legally (raking or walking a non-cheater gun) greater than 20 bps. Without illegal trigger bounce (i.e. debounce set to 1 or 2) people with super finger powers seem to sudenly "come back down to earth" when it comes to how fast they can shoot.

Everyone without a video, proof they own a PACT, Oehler-research, or comparable chronograph, and the printout from that chronograph should be banned from posting any opinion or statements concerning their or their markers performance.

Originally posted by ProX9
i hit 20 bps easy with the 4.0 software and topped at 23 walking the trigger, of course this was without air and i dont remember what i hit with it aired up except that i was outshooting the halo.

[-=Squid=-]

bleh... I dont see how debounce on 2 isnt tourney legal. I CANNOT make it shoot more than one ball per pull. Thats what my vike is set on, and I challenge somebody to make it shoot one ball per pull. In fact, the refs told me to use two.