nppl cap rule?

[Beemer]

Originally posted by RRfireblade
Extremely low bounce settings are far worse in my opinion and has become the standard in the industry.It should be unlawfull and prosecutable to manufacture and release a marker capable of adjusting a perameter beyond a certain point.

Is this whats happening?

Is this not ANSI conforming?

[Beemer]

whats the low bounce setting do

[Beemer]

good time

crap you guys are faster then me.

Would now be a good time to tell ya about the ANSI ADT
accidental discharge test

[RRfireblade]

Basically, the "bounce" setting is a threshhold the software uses to determine if a signal was sent from the switch.It's purpose is to eliminate any switch signals that are created by anything other than a pull of the trigger.A switch has various states of conditions during the pull.It's not truly on/off if you check it at the most fine degree.By dropping this "threshold",the software will recognize many more conditions than just on/off and fire when the switch is in between those to states.

[fallout11]

I would say that increasingly we are reaching that point, Beemer.

1) Any gun that buffers more than 1 shot is definitely not a semi-automatic, per the standards.
In real firearms that's called a burst.

2) Any gun that uses switch noise to generate shots is also not a semi-automatic, per the standards.

3) Finally, any gun with ridiculously low bounce settings (in effect, the sensitivity of the trigger to input) is also not a semi-automatic, per my opinion, and probably provable as per the standards.
You eventually reach the point of having a "hair trigger" that becomes succeptible to inputs other than those intended, like wind blowing past it or shaking the gun.

[fallout11]

RRfireblade describes trigger bounce settings perfectly.

Lowering bounce (or debounce) to very low settings makes the trigger extremely sensitive, sometimes TOO sensitive.
The marker becomes unable to differentiate between an actual trigger pull and some other "motion".

Some players think this is great.
Those with any real firearms experience, however, are appalled.

[Beemer]

Well from that and what the ANSI says they wouldnt pass an ADT. not funny NOT SAFE

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Beemer
Well from that and what the ANSI says they wouldnt pass an ADT. not funny NOT SAFE

Also in huge demand and selling by the thousands.

[fallout11]

Too true!

One wonders what's next, cars that accelerate or brake "on their own"?

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by fallout11
Too true!

One wonders what's next, cars that accelerate or brake "on their own"?

That's already true. But let's not go O/T.

[Beemer]

Originally posted by fallout11
RRfireblade describes trigger bounce settings perfect.

Some players think this is great.
Those with any real firearms experience, however, are appalled.

Ya this would be me

[Beemer]

Wait till I make a thread "Is Your Marker Safe"
and is it ANSI conforming

[fallout11]

You know some people.....
They'll argue the earth is flat and red guns shoot further.
And that safety is for wussies.

[cledford]

Originally posted by GA Devil
with as much problems a cap would cause with paintball companies (actual Paintball) I dont see a cap happening. That means sales at events would drop for players. Sales of actual paintballs that is. Everyone in the industry seems to have their hand in each others pockets somewhere along the road so I dont see paintball manufacturers losing money just to cap ROF or loader manufacturers cause noby will run more then needed to save the wieght of the halo. to many ways for cheats as well. You can make a board do anything you want it to do when ever you want with the right programer. only way for them to check is a chrono sting which isnt happening in the middle of a game. As for what gun is slow or not...it gets the job done right? Thats what counts. But i wouldnt count on companies losing money just to slow the game down a bit.

Since there are only 2 force-feed loader on the market (warp and HALO) both produced by relatively small companies - who's to say that BE doesn't want to just kill the superior products by having them banned from competition. Another thing I've noticed is that most vendors seem to have their hands into the tournament side of the sport - I could see manipulation of the rules to promote a product or destroy another as something that is very possible...

-Calvin

[DementedRabbit]

I wonder if the successes of Mister Drew led to this ruling. What's the idiom? "Poison the well?"

There's a few scenes in Derder's 300fps that make me groan due to the amount of paint and the range involved. I'm surprised nobody has sustained serious injury due to getting shot on the top "vent" part of lenses, or where the foam meets the face on JT Spectra style masks. 14bps is probably the best compromise between speed and safety for now until protection standards are revised.

This would also do strange things to the paintball marker market, since lots of guns can reliably meet that bps limit, where do you go from there?