Anybody want to REALLY know what AKA's customer service is about?

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  • cledford
    Registered User
    • Feb 2001
    • 1386

    #1

    Anybody want to REALLY know what AKA's customer service is about?

    After having invested in 2 Vikings, all of the trimmings for a second (Tool kit, eyes, covers, SCM), and a host of their cocker parts (Sidewinder, Tornado Valve, Lightening bolt, back block & pin, pump rod) all I asked for was a SCM that worked - and below is what I get from the Alexanders.

    For those unaware of the issue I purchased a SCM for my '03 Viking and it didn't work when I installed it. It was creeping dangerously high - enough to not only cause damage to my marker, but also to me or anyone I happened to shoot. I came here and ultimately found out that AKA had an UNANNOUCED recall on the SCMs and that mine was a first generation that needed to be updated. Funny how that never got posted here at PBN, and there is no mention of in any where else either, SAY THEIR WEB-SITE!

    Anyhow, I send the $95 SCM in for the "upgrade" and get it back 10 days later with a note that says "updated to current build and pressure tested -AKA."

    I immediately put the SMC on the gun (which still had the LPR kit hooked up) and guess what? It was STILL creeping - a little slower, but still not working properly and still likely dangerous. So I send it back a SECOND time. Let's keep in mind that the shipping, insurance and initial cost of the unit put the investment at that point at around ~$111 bucks for a part that still wasn't working. So, back it goes with a letter expressing my disappointment - which I feel I was entirely right in expressing. I've been a loyal customer and frankly, as much as AKA parts cost compared to the competition, failure (twice) is completely unacceptable. I asked that I be sent a new SCM that had been tested to work before leaving AKA.

    Here is the response I got in the mail along with an $89 check that didn't even cover what I paid retail for the SCM:

    ATTN: Calvin Ledford
    FROM: Eileen Alexander
    RE: SCM

    Enclosed you will find a check for $89 for your SCM. It is evident that we do not make an SCM that fits your criteria.

    For the benefit of both of us we request that you do not in the future purchase any AKA products.

    Sincerely,

    Eileen B. Alexander
    Sales Manager


    Now how's that for customer service? I've always had my doubts about the business sense of AKA, but not any longer. I can't imagine any other company that would have the gall to, having failed the customer twice, to quit and ask that customer to never purchase their product again. I'm just flabbergasted - they produce a part that doesn't work when new, doesn't work after one trip back, and then have the nerve to send a letter out like the one above? Next time you think about buying AKA, think again.

    -Calvin
    From a poster at PB Nation:

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  • hitech
    Not a shedder of vortices
    • Nov 2001
    • 4775

    #2
    That is, well, unbelievable. Was something in the letter you sent that pissed them off that much? Not that they should respond that way, but it would at least be a reason. Any chance of posting the letter?

    Still seems unbelievable.


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    • PolishSausage
      Liberals are stupid
      • Oct 2002
      • 591

      #3
      Wow, I wouldn't expect that from ANY company, and definitely not AKA. I'm shocked, thats horrible customer service. I may rethink getting a Viking.

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      • Tunaman
        Specialized AGD Tech

        • Dec 2000
        • 8643

        #4
        Same thing happened with the boards...they sucked too. I dont know what all the hype is about with these big, clunky, slow, no quality control pieces of junk. Thank SOMEONE that we have AGD...now THEY are a great company with GREAT products! Long Live AGD! :o
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        • pbguy888
          Registered User
          • Jun 2002
          • 1215

          #5
          wow...Thats like all I can say...
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          • JEDI
            We beat pump players
            • Jan 2002
            • 1859

            #6
            Wow man. That is pretty rediculous. My only thought is that your letter to them was completely out of line, (but I doubt it) That still wouldn't warrant such a response.
            Thats a pretty clear case of poor business practice. I'm sorry you were the victom dude.
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            • DWill
              what's a lurker?
              • Sep 2002
              • 277

              #7
              Type what you put in the letter for our enjoyment
              when there is a will there is a way

              My feedback

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              • Rope a Dope
                Hug me, I squeak!
                • Oct 2003
                • 407

                #8
                Re: Anybody want to REALLY know what AKA's customer service is about?

                Originally posted by Eileen Alexander

                For the benefit of both of us we request that you do not in the future purchase any AKA products.
                Damn dude. Talk about a pissy mood.

                Unless your letter was just as pissy. Care to post it?

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                • cledford
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 1386

                  #9
                  I'll admit that my letter was quite "unhappy" but not out of line - I was disapointed, but feel that I spoke my piece (as needed to) respectfully.

                  LMK,

                  -Calvin

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                  • cphilip
                    Former Moderator

                    • Jun 2026
                    • 16216

                    #10
                    I know Calvin pretty darn well I and can tell you he knows how to write a formal dignified letter and I know without seeing it that he did nothing to recieve such a ludicrous reponse. Its not in his nature at all. Its not him at all. I think its evident that they cannot fix it nor want to fix it. It's probably a serious design flaw that they well know about and would prefer not anyone else know about. And they cannot fix it. So they just would rather ignore it and keep selling them to unsuspecting kids. Which I suspect they think Calvin is. But little do they know they did not deal with some kid. They are assuming he will just go away and not bother them anymore and they probably felt he would be threatened by that response into being quite and not bothering them anymore. Little did they know huh? Problem is they put it in writing. Now it's not only a fact but a DOCUMENTED fact! Go get em Calvin.


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                    • gtrsi
                      Automag?
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 5786

                      #11
                      I guess all you guys were asleep when I got slapped with 70 dollar charge to "fix" my "lifetime warrentied" viking. That was after it had only been in my hands for like 2 weeks..
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                      • cphilip
                        Former Moderator

                        • Jun 2026
                        • 16216

                        #12
                        I posted while Calvin was posting

                        Nothing wrong with that at all Calvin. I suspect they just can't stand any critisim. And so be it. They lose. They didn't even defend themselves or appologise. Which you were due. Unbelieveable.... Really is.


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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #13
                          Originally posted by cledford
                          To have needed to send the product back once is unacceptable to me and twice is beyond comprehension.
                          Reading JUST that I would not want to deal with a customer that felt that way. You can never be 100% sure products will work.

                          However…

                          Originally posted by cledford
                          I am sorry if I sound disgruntled, impatient and inflexible, but as stated above, I pay top dollar for AKA parts and therefore expect top performance…Although I understand that occasionally a “lemon” slips though the cracks, in the case of you products 2 return trips to the factory is simple unacceptable.
                          That seems to clear it up. You are willing to pay top dollar and want top quality. It would seem that if you are a company that wants to produce top quality products, this would make you very happy. A customer that is willing to pay for it! I guess they don’t want to make top quality products.

                          I’ll bet they didn’t get that far in the letter. Probably didn’t read the whole thing. They probably stopped somewhere near the first quote. There is no reason for that. Yes, it wasn’t a “happy” letter. Yes, it is demanding. However, you even apologized for that. You would think that a customer apologizing for the tone of their letter would go a long way. How many customers do that?


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                          • agdemagman69
                            hehe 69 ^
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 896

                            #14
                            Wow, thats really harsh from AKA

                            I returned my 2k3 Viking for an SCM shootdown problem last year with a letter appropriating the problem, and when they recieved and tested the SCM and could not find any problem, they personally contacted me over the phone to get more details about it.

                            I even got everything back with no problem.

                            They've seemed a little shaky since they got attacked by SP on christmas

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                            • FallNAngel
                              Registered User
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 1076

                              #15
                              At first after reading the letter a few lines into it I was thinking "hmm... not sounding too happy here", after reading a bit more... (at the cost of sounding "nerdy")DAMN, that's a nice letter. Like I said before, I'd send another letter to the President asking them if that's really how they conduct business with their loyal customers (and include a copy of the letter they sent you) and tell them you want the best of the best... which is what you thought AKA products were. If this isn't true, please refund the extra $40 for the shipping to "repair" the SCM and that you'll take your business elsewhere. I'd be quite surprised if they respond the same way. If they do, they'll be losing much more than one loyal customer.
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