Dead Mans Walk

[RusskiX]

Originally posted by dansim
im the master of the dmw, and it does take alot of balls but i go knowing i may get shot, if i get shot 2 or 3 times thats expected, but if someone were to empty a hopper on me as you people have stated you do, one of us is leaving in an ambulance and one in a cop car, you pick

This is my point! How many times have we seen tempers flare on and off the field. DMW is like pouring gasoline on the fire. Both parties feel entitled to their actions. DMW is currently not prohibited and bonus balling is also expected. Personally I'd like to get rid of the DMW and thereby reduce one situation for overshooting. It might help to make 'balling a little more civil.

Just my $0.01

[-=Squid=-]

I dont care, because to get to the dead box they have to walk AWAY from you. If a player is walking towards me, I shoot him, whether I think he is dead or alive. There is no reason to fall prey to the DMW.

EDIT: Seeing a lot of this as well... I never raise my gun above my head. I yell hit so my mates' know im gone, then I walk to the deadbox and sit down. Thats all. Nobody has ever complained except my own team, lol.

[Corbet]

Sometimes its ok. I was playing some rec ball at the local field with about 10 people and there was of PBers. The 16 year old was on our team and his mom and dad (who were REALLY good) were on the other side. We lost almost every single time so the ref told the kid "why dont you DMW your parents." He did it, and we won. It was really funny.

[Jack & Coke]

DMW = bonus ball for me.

There exists a certain level of trust, respect, and good sportsmanship that keeps me from overshooting someone who is trying to walk off the field.

Once this understanding of trust, respect, and good sportsmanship is broken by a DMW, you get my bonus ball for the rest of the day - whether you realize it or not.

It's an act of disrespect by taking advantage of your opponent's good will.

It would be like a basketball team "acting" like they're running out the clock at the end of the game because they're winning... just when the defender relaxs and goes to shake the guy's hand to say "good game", the guy drives to the hole and scores. Hey, it was legal, but it was very disrespectful.

If you're on the opposing team and you pull a DMW, you get my bonus ball in the next game as you leave the field, even if you have your gun and hand up. I'll just do it so you don't know it's me.

If we're playing walk-on, I may even switch to your team and off the break, I'll bonus ball you in the back. The best thing about it is I'll be descret and you'll never know who shot you in the back.

So don't do it... mmmkay?

[dansim]

bonus ball me and youll get 10 back

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by dansim
bonus ball me and youll get 10 back

LOL!

Impossible... you'll never know it was me.

Muhahahahaha!

[Jonesie]

Originally posted by dansim
bonus ball me and youll get 10 back

mmm, that's EXACTLY what's wrong with out sport. He gives you a bonus, you give him 10. Then he retaliates and everyone is shooting everyone and it's an orgy of paint,l testosterone, anger, and foul language.

DMW is legal, period. Like Squid said (OMG, I'm quoting Squid), 99% of the time the other players have to walk AWAY from you to the dead box. If they're doing otherwise, shoot them until they comply. But don't make them pay all day. That's lame and immature.

[funkykarl]

You would actually switch to his team and shoot him in the back? Man, that's bitter, but I like it! Anyways, there are always gonna to be punks who pull DMW's, and there area always gonna be people who use it as a justification to get the pleasure of seeing a couple extra balls break on their opponent. That's just the way it's going to be until a rule is made. Or, by some miracle, people start being more respectful than competetive. Like that will ever happen.

[Jack & Coke]

Originally posted by funkykarl


...being more respectful than competetive...

bingo!

[fire1811]

Originally posted by dansim
bonus ball me and youll get 10 back

but see then i would win twice as much
1 i got to shoot you
2. your team is getting a penalty

[fallout11]

Look guys, the dead man's walk is very lame.

As Jack & Coke stated so eloquently:
"There exists a certain level of trust, respect, and good sportsmanship that keeps me from overshooting someone who is trying to walk off the field."

I believe the same way.


But as others have pointed out, it is a means to an end. A "trick", if you prefer.
I personally will never perform one, not my style.
But I've seen plenty, and been on the receiving end more than once.

Do not attack the DMW (unless you like jail), or bonus ball.
Just be aware of the potential, and use your common sense, your eyes, and a little healthy suspicion.
Players with barrel plugs or hand/marker in the air are dead.
Those without get shot once, to make sure.

Fool them once, okay. But don't expect to fool anyone twice.

[hitech]

Originally posted by shartley
This brings to mind something that urked the heck out of me while watching Paintball on OLN…. Virtually NONE of the players followed this rule. I didn’t see any player who was marked out raise their marker over their head, or even raise their hand. I saw them only slowly walk off the field. Yeah…. Setting a good example those “pro” players are…… And the Refs should MAKE them do it.

A pet peeve of mine also. The problem is not with the DMW (I think my team pulled off the first one in a tournament). The problem is with player’s egos keeping them from properly signaling their elimination and then whining about being shot (they call it bonus balling, which it is NOT) when they are leaving the field. Get your ego in check and signal your elimination and it won't be a problem. DMW should work then either. If they do, well, you deserved it!

[Korrosion]

I usually only DMW when I know for 100% that the guy i just shot is whiping. If I have the choice I usually shoot ultra evil, so it is pretty obvious when someone tries to whipe. And IF the DMW if succesfull I usually stand to the side of the person, quickly raise my marker and shoot him in the goggs several times to make sure he knows he's out. Then I tell him (read as yell at him) that if he hadnt whiped this would not have happened. Only once did someone spin and shoot, not very accuratly, at me (seems its hard to see when there's thick pink fill over 3/4 of your lense ). When he did I just filled the rest of his lense with paint and gave him a few in the neck for his trouble... He complained to the ref but when I pointed out the whipe marks to the ref and showed the ref that I had not been shot while walking up there he basically told the guy not to cheat and that wouldn't happen.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
Once this understanding of trust, respect, and good sportsmanship is broken by a DMW, you get my bonus ball for the rest of the day - whether you realize it or not. It's an act of disrespect by taking advantage of your opponent's good will.

I hate to disagree, but I do. There is noting about a DMW that is breaking any trust, showing any disrespect or bad sportsmanship. In a tournament. If eliminations are properly signaled, it is not a problem. In a tournament, if someone doesn’t properly signal their elimination then I will shoot them. It’s not bonus balling, it’s shooting a player. Anyone who doesn’t signal their elimination should EXPECT to be shot.

Originally posted by Jack & Coke
It would be like a basketball team "acting" like they're running out the clock at the end of the game because they're winning... just when the defender relaxs and goes to shake the guy's hand to say "good game", the guy drives to the hole and scores. Hey, it was legal, but it was very disrespectful.

That is entirely different. That is a team that has won the game showing off. This has nothing to do with that. It is trying to win the game with a tactic. A surprise tactic, but what is wrong with surprises?

Originally posted by Jack & Coke If you're on the opposing team and you pull a DMW, you get my bonus ball in the next game as you leave the field, even if you have your gun and hand up. I'll just do it so you don't know it's me.

Then you are cheating (breaking the rules). The DMW does NOT break any rules.

[TheTramp]

It's very simple.

If someone I see someone on the other team walking towards me I shoot them until they either put their hand up, the ref calls them out, or I break a couple of obvious balls on them. End of story. No need for bonus balls (shooting after the hand goes up). If they complain that they were out, I just say you should have had your hand up and they generally go away grumbling but knowing to put their hand up later.

This way you get all DMW's and also teach people to raise their hands.

P.S. DME is lame but legal