Why don't more people use warps?

[FlameboyC11]

I posted a similar question over at pbnation, and I got alot of the same response ("it looks gay, it unbalances the gun, it makes your gun a brick, it doesn't work, etc."). Just to give myself, and maybe some other people some perspective, I thought I'd ask here too. Why don't more people use Warps?

[Vash02]

I've often wondered that same thing myself and here are the few things that i came up with.

Some people like to shoot using both hands and it really can be hard or even impossible for guys with bigger hands to get their hands between the warp and the trigger frame.

Also, some people just dont like the "cubish" feeling of a marker that is hooked up with a warp.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

you havn't been to a AO meet or AO day have you? I see warps everywhere, even on impulses and other markers!

But imo i think warps make your gun weight a lot. That's the reason i sold it but now i regret it, im purchasing another warp

Another thing is probably the balance, but ever since i've been using the warp i didnt notice any big complications.

[TheDoveDecends]

i dont like them.. because i do like to shoot with both hands, and i am a big guy.. with huge hands. Plus they do add weight, and unbalance.

[RRfireblade]

it looks (EDITTED)bulky and un-attractive, it unbalances the gun, it makes your gun a brick,

Some people like to shoot using both hands and it really can be hard or even impossible for guys with bigger hands to get their hands between the warp and the trigger frame.

some people just dont like the "cubish" feeling of a marker that is hooked up with a warp.

That's a start.

Simply,it's a personal preferance.I tried one a while ago and just don't like it.The feel,the weight,the balance,the look,the added complexity,the apperance of clutter,the limitations it adds to the guns,the extra batteries etc.

Just not for me.

If you like it,go for it and don't worry what other people think.

[Doc Nickel]

You mean Warp setups like this?



Doc.

[CodeMA]

I have grown partial to my warp... Ive learned to not shoot both hands and just tilt it... works great... feels natural too, just takes some getting use too at first...

any other marker without it, I still switch hands, with warp ya dont need it...

I dont notice the extra weight to bad, nor does it off balance it IMO

EDIT: just saw body Doc posted.... OMFG....sweetness... Empire milling? Looks ausome

[barberjohn]

i think that they are too restricting, and make your marker weigh more and feel wierd, but thats just IMHO. everyone has their own opinion, but not being able to shoot with both hands will probably be the most likely one you will get.

[felony]

i am a righty person, but i have learned to walk and shoot almost better lefty. I don't know why but i have seen that with alot of other people too.

I have yet to try a warp, but really want to.

One question though..

Since you can't switch hands you need to tilt to shoot on your off hand, correct? what does this mean for total shots fired? So lets say my warp is set up on the right side and i lean on the right. My revy will stop feeding at a certain angle, what happens when that paint is gone? I have to sit being the bunker and re-prime it?

That seems kinda odd.. but this is how i invision it.

Oh and is really that hard to adjust to different paints and what not?

can you mix paints?

LMK

dan

[Halliday]

No Warp

I don't like having yet another apparatus to possibly malfuntion on my marker.

[theraidenproject]

I used a warp exclusively for two years. I loved it, and hated hoppers. Didn't mind the weight, didn't think it balanced weird, liked not switching hands, loved the profile. However, I got an Xmag on Thursday. No warp breech. So I played Saturday in a tourney for the first time without a warp in two years. I actually didn't miss it at all. I didn't get one hopper hit, either. I also found a way to shoot lefty without actually switching hands that worked great.
But back when I got it, the 12v was the speed king, and I could outshoot it even on my classic valved mag. Halo takes care of this problem, havn't noticed a difference (speed-wise) between a Halo on top or a 12v warp on the side. Also, the Xmag is such a dramatic weight difference from my old Emag, that dropping the warp at the same time made me not miss the extra pound. New warp breeches are apparently pretty far away, so I'll see how I play with the hopper until then, and then see if I want the warp back.

[QUINCYMASSGUY]

Doc

Doc, wouldn't that require a reflective eye instead of a break beam eye for the board? So people would have to use different boards? I don't think too many would be fond of getting that done to their empire timmy's due to cost but DAMN is that cool!

Top benefits of warp and why they're sort of obsolete or not worth it:

1.) Force feed functionality: I think hooking a Halo up directly instead of plugging it into the warp keeps a higher rate of ball feed.

2.) Profile: I understand the idea of it eliminating the high profile but at the same time it adds weight and makes one side of the gun's profile thicker. I'd be more likely to get a hopper shot coming around the side with a warp than over the top with a Halo. I prefer the thin profile and, with a low rise and no drop forward, the hopper doesn't rise much higher than your head.

So it's cool, but not worth the $125 or so I could invest in something else. Just my 2 cents.

[jimmyjobob]

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id say preference....and position.

had one, liked it. just seemed that the weight became more of an issue than the balance. couldnt maneuever as easily. i also bought them before the level 10 so it seemed that i had less breaks with the warp than just a standard rev . now, theres no need. overall a lighter setup.

if you were a back player (with a bunch of paint) maybe better. might not be such a problem.

[TransMan]

Im too poor to buy one.

[MMM]

I found one on sale new for $69 so I bought it. Hooked it up to the viking last weekend and I loved it. Here are the caveats (they are long, sorry):

1. I'm a little woman, my arms are weak. After a day with the balance of a hopper on top I couldn't hold the set up any more. I'd have to prop my right arm under the tank and puch up or it wasn't going anywhere. Sad but true and yes I tried a variety of different drop set ups. The warp completely ridded me of this problem, the weight distribution, way completely different and my arms never got tired. That's saying a lot since my husband was whining about the weight when he took it to get an air fill. Whiney front players, he probably would complain about carrying all my paint if he had too.

2. I'm a back player, I couldn't imagine crawling with that thing sticking out, it'd be a real pain. I'm sure there are front/mid players that have made their way around it but I wouldn't do it. Front player are snap shooters and don't hang out a lot. Back players are supposed shoot streams and having a smaller profile helps get those extra few shots off.

3. I have the patience to get a complicated set up working. There were technical difficuties the first day, I won't even bore you any more than I already have with the details. That said, if you're a young kid with little patience just don't even bother trying.