Why don't more people use warps?

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Miscue
If you see pictures of people trying to hide their hopper behind their bunker, look how awkward they look. Look where their elbows are, and their shoulders, and what sticks out in order to hide the hopper... and the odd ways they hold their markers - that can't be comfortable. They have to do a contortionist act... it seems. This problem is non-existant with a warp. It's easy to keep your elbows and shoulders in, and keep everything behind the bunker... it's not just your hopper that stays concealed.

It's just a matter of quickly pivoting your marker with a warp, you don't have to change how you hold your marker.

I really don't see why you'd have to do any of that,but my point was where is your head when you shoot? Warp or not,it's right behind your gun offering the same target as a hopper.Just as in the pic you posted.Seems to me that the warp only gives you a false sense of security if you think your head is not a target because of it.

[Creative Mayhem]

Originally posted by Tyger


The warp is heavy? Geez... You mean all this time I've been playing with BRASS paintguns is paying off? Sheesh! I've used my Warped E-mag in woods games a lot, it didn't SEEM heavy.... It seemed downright comfortable at Shatnerball... Comfy 'nuff to crawl around and shoot Canadians...

**runs and hides**

-Tyger

*waiting for Tyger in his hiding spot RATATATATAT(I'm psychic EH)*

I have the mini all warped, so I know about heavy. But by the end of the 8hr day, if you haven't put the setup down for any length of time, it can and will get heavier. Now I didn't say that you wouldn't be able to carry it another second, it would just get noticably heavier.

[personman]

I hate it when people say warps are bulky, and they get in the way. I love warps. I had a warp two years ago, but I diddnt know how to play with it. I thought it was cool, but then after still getting hit in the hopper, I decided I diddnt like it. Turns out I just diddnt know how to play with it. There is a certian style you can adapt with a warp. You lean out of a bunker, tilting your gun. The warp force feeds. You have plenty of shots before you have to tip back in and prime again. You can shoot both lefty and righty, simply by tilting your gun 90*. Its that simple, and some people dont even realise it. As for the battery snaps, I dont know why people break them so often. I could see maybe a special ed or <10 y/o person breaking them, but honestly, if you know how to remove a battery, and it isnt that hard, then you shouldnt have a problem. I drew a diagram for those who are a bit slow :)


Now thats not hard to do, is it? Also dont let your 9vs dangle off when you remove the battery door.

Oh, the warp is heavy? Give me a break. It wieghs like what, less than a pound? I'm 14, I wiegh 125, I have girly arms. If I can carry a gun with a warp all day, so can you. Stop whining. Edit Edit: I would also like to add that I was easily bunkering people (I think I got 2) and I was getting to the 50 very easally.

Meh I think I'm done ranting.

Last time I played (my first time with my warp on this gun) I got MANY MANY complements on my playing. I think thats one of the first times I've ever gotten a complement on my playing. Everyone was saying I was the best out there on the field Not to brag.
I think the warp has helped me alot.

Edit:
It seems I'm not done ranting. I noticed RRFireblade pointing out, your head is just where your hopper was. Not really. I dont know about you but my head is defentally not right behind my hopper when I play. That would prevent me from seeing who im shooting at.

Let me add another one of my awesome illustrations.



I guess that kind of illistrates my point.

[Gunga]

Another Warp advantage that I didn't see mentioned is the clearer/wider view you have. No stinkin blimp in the way of your line of sight. :)

[hitech]

[Brophog]

I don't think your getting "Artist of the Week" nominations with that work, Personman. :) :)

[personman]

[hitech]

Originally posted by Creative Mayhem
In scenario/bussh play, the warp's profile advantage aren't really needed...Warps were made for AIRBALL...

Everyone says/thinks that. However, I got the warp FOR woodsball. That's all I played at the time. I thought it gave me a bigger advantage than ANY other upgrade would. I still thought it after I got it.

[jeffremiller]

Worst thing in the world is to play against another warped team...

I remember the SuperTour weekend a few years back... All warps at Country Club and it was wild.

I love my warps... now that I'm used to them, if I run vert, I try tipping the gun over to shot and it doesn't feel.

J_

[Miscue]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


I really don't see why you'd have to do any of that,but my point was where is your head when you shoot? Warp or not,it's right behind your gun offering the same target as a hopper.Just as in the pic you posted.Seems to me that the warp only gives you a false sense of security if you think your head is not a target because of it.

Absolutely not, this is not a false sense of security. Have you played against people with warps who know how to take advantage of them? Do you realize how much harder it is to see them? Particularly at distances, and when they are in peripheral vision - damned near invisible. A hopper being waved around offers a lot of contrast. A warp significantly cuts down what visual information you provide. Hopper hits are a minor issue to me. And I think it can be proven that a warp lets you use a lot more of your bunker... one of these days I might take some good photos of warp vs. no warp situations... I don't think anyone has really done a good job of this yet.

I think this is one of those things where, there is a learning curve involved in making use of the equipment. Like, if you hand an untrained person a high end bowling ball - they will suck with it and it could even be detrimental... of course they won't like it. You give someone fancy figure skates, and they still fall on their arses... they won't like this either. If I give someone my tournament paddle, they will have a hard time even hitting the table and complain that it is too hard to control...

The weight and whatever issue, these are things that can be overcome. And, when this happens... the disadvantages are gone and you are left with the advantages. I think that people make the mistake of expecting it to make everything instantly better, w/o having to work at it. The lack of instant gratification I believe is a big reason for why people who have tried it don't like the warp.

But of course, I don't think the warp is suited for everyone... and it makes perfect sense to prefer not to use it. Give someone a $300 cue, and they will suck just as bad as with a house cue. This sort of person does not need that kind of equipment, and I agree... that it very well could be detrimental for them to use it.

[Miscue]

Here's an example of where it sucks to have a hopper on top.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Miscue


Absolutely not, this is not a false sense of security.

Have you played against people with warps who know how to take advantage of them?

The security thing was just joking,hense the .

I've played against them,I can't say if they are using them to the fullest potential or not though.

I'm only saying,you have to see to shoot,I think we can agree on that.And most peoples heads are bigger than the average hopper,more contrasting in most cases and an overall better target.Any good player would probably agree that gogs are 90-95% of thier eliminations.

As far as the other,I think it's pretty rare in anything but woods ball that you either don't know or at least have a decent idea where your opponents are,and if you don't,your going to get spanked anyway.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Miscue
Here's an example of where it sucks to have a hopper on top.

In that pic,his head would be higher than his barrel w/ a warp as well.

[SlartyBartFast]

Originally posted by RRfireblade
In that pic,his head would be higher than his barrel w/ a warp as well.

But his marker could be upright and held better.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


In that pic,his head would be higher than his barrel w/ a warp as well.

But look how he has to hold his marker. With the way he's holding it, a warp would have a similar profile except he could hold it better.