Why don't more people use warps?

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by RRfireblade


In that pic,his head would be higher than his barrel w/ a warp as well.

I've been in similar positions with my warp and my head would be where his is but just like Miscue had pointed out I'd be holding it much easier.

[hitech]

Originally posted by Miscue
With the way he's holding it, a warp would have a similar profile except he could hold it better.

And would probably be more accurate.

Warpfeed, improves your accuracy!

[Miscue]

Originally posted by hitech


And would probably be more accurate.

Warpfeed, improves your accuracy!

Can probably shoot faster too. Also, his loader isn't going to work so well tilted like that.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Miscue


But look how he has to hold his marker. With the way he's holding it, a warp would have a similar profile except he could hold it better.

Yeah,probably.

[SkyBoySurfer]

One of the biggest advateges that I see with the warp is this:


when your playing with a warp and have good form...all your oppent sees is your head..Now when you see a head barly comeing out of a bunker your thinking this..."he is recon and not shooting at me"..now when this happens...you may shoot 3-6 balls at hit just to see if you may get lucky hitting him and also to conserve paint on a non primary target...but your not trying that hard to get him out...your just trying to keep him in his bunker.

and when this happens your mind is not in elemination mode..its in suppesion mode....and this is why the warp has this awsome field advantage...becuse that person you you think is just looking at you....is actualy shooting you at 12-16bps and you have no idea untill thoes balls are hitting your bunker...and thats all it takes....

not only will it shock the hell out of you, that someone your looking right at is shooting at you when it doesint seem like he is...BECAUSE your going "HEY WHERE IS HIS GUN! I DONT SEE A HOPPER?!?!?"...but also when you suppress that person into his bunker and then wrap around yours....he can easy snap shoot you with out you haveing a chance on hiting him...simply becuse he has 1/3 of his mask popeing out the side of the bunker....and you have half your body around yours....

Another main adavntage is ...you no longer need to swich hands...you can heep your strong hand as well as line of sight...people say you have more profile when you try and shoot the other side of your bunker with a warp...but thats complete crap...you can hold your gun sideways...or even upside down with no problems what so ever, and still keep the same small profile as you would your strong side...and now you dont have any down time...you just keep shooting.

The warp feed to me is a very clear choice to have a suprime SUPERIORITY on the field.

but thats just my opinion I could be wrong.

[tony3]

You make some good points skysurfer, but I disagree with a few of them. If I see someones head I try to hit it with as many balls as needed. I don't fire 1 or 2 balls. Also, if I see someones head out, I'm ready for it to shoot at me. Also, for me atleast you can see the balls coming right at you giving you time to move out of the way. Next, I personally couldn't shoot a warp lefty, I felt like I was coming out of the bunker way to much. This is a great way to shoot lefty without switching hands, just need to move your left hand. Warps aren't for everyone, but there are some points that need improving imo.

[shades]

Weight: not an issue with me. My revy and warp run off of the Emag battery. If you do not have an E mag you can power both the revy and warp from the revy with that 12v warp upgrade. Which in turn would turn your warp off when you turn your revy off. The lack of two nine volts and 4 AA lighten up things alot. I am an old man of 37 and I can shoot this rig one handed if need be. I am sure you buff young gents benching 220 and curling 50+ can handle 1LB in two hands.

Balance: The weight is below the pivot point or points of your hands. Which is alot easier that balancing 2 Lbs of paint on top fo your gun.

Shooting Left: I'm not a pro. I'm not a lefty. I personally do not switch hands because of the warp IS in the way. BUT I dont have to. I just lay it down on its side an whale.

[Beemer]

Because

Why don't more people use warps?

Because its an old school thing. All we ever wanted was the hopper off the top, any how any way.

Look at the box it comes in. It says right on it, mainly for old school players who wanted the hopper off the top.
Some of the new school get it but not many.

Its a Paradigm Shift that is stuck some where in a warp.

Its all perspective or perception.

Be Verstile, Modify, Adapt, Overcome.

[Chojin Man]

Originally posted by felony
One question though..

Since you can't switch hands you need to tilt to shoot on your off hand, correct? what does this mean for total shots fired? So lets say my warp is set up on the right side and i lean on the right. My revy will stop feeding at a certain angle, what happens when that paint is gone? I have to sit being the bunker and re-prime it?

That seems kinda odd.. but this is how i invision it.

Oh and is really that hard to adjust to different paints and what not?

can you mix paints?

LMK

dan

Ya if you shoot on the side that the warp is on then you pretty much have to tilt it; to keep the warp from sticking out, and re-prime the warp. Only real disadvantage I see with it. Anyone have a fix for this?

You don't have to do any adjustments when you switch paint sizes. Sometimes the disks need to be flipped after time, but that is no biggie.

It's not recommended that you use mixed paint with it. I have never really tried it with mixed so I can't say how well it does or doesn't work.

Originally posted by JuggaloDave

i dont use one cause the cost as a main factor, i have never used one, and i dont have 130 bux for something

Holy cow where are you buying from! I got my warp NIB for $55 on Ebay. That is the main reason I got one was b/c it is half as much as a halo. I kept outshooting my 12vRevvy and needed something cheap to boost my bps.


Problems that I have experienced:

The battery wires stink!!! They were broken straight out of the box! I fixed them myself and haven't had any breaks yet.

Shooting on the side that the warp is on...having to tilt the gun so that my hopper can't load is a pain. Maybe I'm using a bad technique?

Other than that no real disadvantage for me.

Someone mentioned that a new design-combining the warp with a hopper into one unit- would be better. I would agree with that statement. Probably never going to happen though.

[tony3]

I personally don't see what the big deal is about tilting your hopper inwards to the bunker? Unless you are using a revvy it shouldn't be to much of a problem unless you are tilting it at 80*'s Also, My hopper does not extend past my head. If I get hit in the hopper which is pretty rare, I would of got hit in the goggles anyways, so it's not a big deal. People in 96 didn't have good forcefeed hoppers, and used high rises. Now with better loader technology we can have no rises and we can tilt our guns at more dramatic angles. Warps were a great thing, but due to recent ideas/technology, they aren't needed imo.

[Wes Janson]

I must agree with RR, sure, you can't see his hopper, but you can still see the player's head plain as day. Now it just means he'll get gogged instead of taking a hit to the hopper. It's definitely of some advantage, but our giant brains and foreheads seem to be the real tactical disadvantage on the field. It's a matter of taste, and on some guns that weight is definitely going to be uncomfortable. I'm left handed, but my gun is a right-feed system. Even if I wanted to use a warp, it would probably do no more than make me an even larger target.

[personman]

Also You gotta admit that when coming over the top of a bunker, your profile is going to be dramatically larger than it would be with a warp. Theres no way around that
Well, warps are kind of an oppinion style thing. I personally think that warp feeds are NOT outdated. They beat the hell out of a Q loader, thats for sure, and thats brand spanking new technology. But really the only reasons I would take a warp over a q loader is because I know its quality, its cheaper, and has a greater carrying capacity for when I want to play hopperball.

[jayloo]

I like being the only warp on the field most of the time.

It always makes me smile when I hear folks say crap about my warp. This usually happens after I gog them.

Again it is all personal preference....get over it.

[Lethargic]

Well, I'm going to take up the opposition stance here. I used a warp for over 6 months, and I sold it as soon as AGD offered us classic RT owners an upgrade program. Don't get me wrong; I love the warp feed, and the idea behind it is sound, but they just don't fit me or my playing style.

The main problem I had was just keeping the thing intact. I went through 3 sets of shells in 6 months, all broken where they attach to the warp bracket. I resoldered every wire on the thing, because they all jostled off at one point or another. I even managed to crack one of the wheels one day! The warp was just not build to be slammed around on the ground. NO HOPPER/LOADER IS!!!! But the warp is the only one that places itself right down there on the side of the gun where I can smack it on things.

If you have the extra money, and feel like hurting your gun a bit, try doing a superman slide with your warpfed gun. Now do it again. And again. No matter how good you are, you WILL at some point hit/bounce/drag that warp along the ground. And the warp is plastic. And plastic doesn't like being smacked on the ground. So you end up with broken shells, which nobody wants, and a gun that will no longer work. And playing tournaments that really isn't acceptable. I have 7 minutes to do whatever it takes to clean the field and hang the flag, and a broken loader doesn't help me, does it?

Last of all, there is the reliability factor. Having 3 sets of batteries to check just isn't healthy. And two of the three (Warp and marker) would put me out of the game. It isn't idiotproof, and at this point, I will take something that might and I will say might give me a smaller profile when shooting. You can get mighty good at hiding your hopper if you know what you are doing. I seriously doubt that my warp made me much (if any) smaller of a target than my current setup.

Don't get me wrong, I realy do like the warp, at least in principle. If there ever was a warp/hopper, I'd be very tempted to check it out. And in the end, all it boils don to is personal preference. And I prefer my wimpy, backwards, easy-target to your new-fangled contraptions, m-kay?!

[edweird]

wow ive put my 2 warps though hell and back and havent managed to break anything other than a battery wire on them.

anyhow as a pro warp user...

weight: Um I load Missles ... by hand ... over my head ... all day long... for a living. The weight added by useing a warp ISNT an issue, and if it is go to the gym :P

awkwardness: I suggest playing with it for some time before ya pass that judgment on it.