Why don't more people use warps?

[Miscue]

Originally posted by jayloo

ITS ALL PERSONAL PREFERENCE!!!!

Agreed... some prefer to be at a tactical disadvantage. :)

[hAppy]

Re: Why don't more people use warps?

Originally posted by FlameboyC11
I posted a similar question over at pbnation, and I got alot of the same response ("it looks gay, it unbalances the gun, it makes your gun a brick, it doesn't work, etc."). Just to give myself, and maybe some other people some perspective, I thought I'd ask here too. Why don't more people use Warps?

its an inconvenience

i get annoyed cus my hand cant get around it and get a good feel of a foregrip

its kinda bulky

it limits to which side you can shoot out

[Miscue]

Re: Re: Why don't more people use warps?

Originally posted by xXhAppyAznXx
its an inconvenience

it limits to which side you can shoot out

I'd argue the opposite. You can use more parts of the bunker w/o your hopper sticking out.

Righty shooting out the left:


Also, consider that this picture is taken from his right side. Players down field will see only the top of his head and barrel, the hopper will be completely concealed.

[RoadDawg]

Personally I don't want people to use warps. It gives me a small edge. I can shoot out both sides on my nicely balanced Warp ULE'd Emag. I get all sorts of complaints/comments about it on the field and it makes me smile. I just hate it when it's warp vs warp.

[Miscue]

Originally posted by RoadDawg
Personally I don't want people to use warps. It gives me a small edge. I can shoot out both sides on my nicely balanced Warp ULE'd Emag. I get all sorts of complaints/comments about it on the field and it makes me smile. I just hate it when it's warp vs warp.

Hehe, I agree. I almost don't want people to use it, as long as I can.

I like to shoot from the very bottom of the bunker sometimes. Nobody shoots from there... how could you? I think it's a lot easier to play a snake with a warp, because you have to play from awkward positions and you can do so and stay tight.

On regular bunkers I'll mix it up, top - bottom - middle. If someone is paying close attention to me, I'd rather that they have to take a bit more time having to adjust their aim. You know those machines where you beat the gophers that pop out with the hammer... it's a lot harder when they are coming from different directions than if the same gopher came out the same hole everytime.

Another thing is, playing both sides of your bunker rapidly. You gonna switch hands 50 times? Or just tilt back and forth, taking very little time to do this? Especially with a dorito...

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by Miscue


Hehe, I agree. I almost don't want people to use it, as long as I can.

I like to shoot from the very bottom of the bunker sometimes. Nobody shoots from there... how could you? I think it's a lot easier to play a snake with a warp, because you have to play from awkward positions and you can do so and stay tight.

On regular bunkers I'll mix it up, top - bottom - middle. If someone is paying close attention to me, I'd rather that they have to take a bit more time having to adjust their aim. You know those machines where you beat the gophers that pop out with the hammer... it's a lot harder when they are coming from different directions than if the same gopher came out the same hole everytime.

Another thing is, playing both sides of your bunker rapidly. You gonna switch hands 50 times? Or just tilt back and forth, taking very little time to do this? Especially with a dorito...

Agreed. I'd rather roll the marker and shoot out both sides quickly then switch hands and waste those precious mili seconds. I mix it up as often as I can but I feel it's easier to snap shoot with the warp then without. They only see my barrel instead of the hopper/barrel combo. I was kind of worried at the AO CA meet that there would be more warps but very few were there. Which made me happy and even fewer were on Emags. (Hitech is the only one I think of besides mine).

I do agree that dorrito bunkers are best suited for the warps. That slant can show your hopper quickly and it stinks. I've tried going to no warp setups but I get tagged on the hopper 4 of the 5 times. So I went back to warped setups and have eliminated that hopper hits. Now it's barrel hits and that's my own fault for keeping it there so long.

[tony3]

I used to own a warp, I had it for a 2 weeks. I broke the battery wires in it 3 times It also just added another thing that could go wrong with my gun. It also added a lot of weight to my gun that wasn't needed. I prefer a straight up hopper, I rarely get hopper hits anyway.

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by tony3
I used to own a warp, I had it for a 2 weeks. I broke the battery wires in it 3 times It also just added another thing that could go wrong with my gun. It also added a lot of weight to my gun that wasn't needed. I prefer a straight up hopper, I rarely get hopper hits anyway.

I've heard several people cry about the battery wires and yet I've had one problem (bought it used and it came with a broken wire). Other then that I've had no problems with any of it. Other then loosing the springs when I clean it but now that it's intellilinked I don't need those. The weight isn't that big of an issue with me. Ya it's an extra 15 oz but on the right setup it balances out the marker. It is personal preferences but Tony I don't think 2 weeks is enough time to get accustomed to the warp. I had it for at least 3 weeks before I finally learned how to use it correctly and to my advantage. I will say though. If people don't want them that's fine. I'll have that little extra help on my side.

[RRfireblade]

Originally posted by Miscue


Agreed... some prefer to be at a tactical disadvantage. :)

I don't agree.It's only "possible" advantage is hopper profile.Your picture is a perfect example,no hopper yes, but what's right behind it? Your head.Ultimately there's really no diffence there,just all the other added negatives.(weight,bulk,potential failure etc.)

Like I said before,if you like it,great.But your just as bad for saying "if you don't like it your wrong", as much as those who argue against it based on "thier" preference.

[Creative Mayhem]

I love my warp. Nuff said. I won't go saying everything everyone else has said about the balance, wieght, etc. I will simply say, LIFT SOME WIEGHTS GIRLYMAN! That will take care of those problems. The only issue I have ever had with my warp was prolonged usage, like playing a scenario with it. At Shatnerball, or when playing a day long game, the warp setup will get heavier than normal. I prolly could have switched my xmag over to vert, but I didn't... I toughed it out you little GIRLMEN! In scenario/bussh play, the warp's profile advantage aren't really needed, due to the fact that most of the bush play will be a long ball type of play, not to mention all the brush and foliage in the way to help conceal you.

Warps were made for AIRBALL, while you could go either way for scenario, provided you are man enough to carry the weight all day. LIFT SOME WIEGHTS YOU LTTTLE GIRLYMEN!!!!

[Tyger]

it's like playing stock class with a semi. No hopper on top, so I cna use the TOP of a bunker easily and not get hit. There's also the weird angles I put myself into to soot, that I couldn'd do with a regualr hopper. Then there's the ROF issues too. But the one reason to have a warp?

It's just FREAKING COOL!

I've got mine set up with a Richochet hopper, tucks it nicely out of the way. I've got big hands too, and it works for me. Thought about bolting a Halo on there, but why bother? I'm not outshooting this rig yet...

-Tyger

[Tyger]

Originally posted by Creative Mayhem
I love my warp. Nuff said. I won't go saying everything everyone else has said about the balance, wieght, etc. I will simply say, LIFT SOME WIEGHTS GIRLYMAN!
...
Warps were made for AIRBALL, while you could go either way for scenario, provided you are man enough to carry the weight all day. LIFT SOME WIEGHTS YOU LTTTLE GIRLYMEN!!!!

The warp is heavy? Geez... You mean all this time I've been playing with BRASS paintguns is paying off? Sheesh! I've used my Warped E-mag in woods games a lot, it didn't SEEM heavy.... It seemed downright comfortable at Shatnerball... Comfy 'nuff to crawl around and shoot Canadians...

**runs and hides**

-Tyger

[Miscue]

If you see pictures of people trying to hide their hopper behind their bunker, look how awkward they look. Look where their elbows are, and their shoulders, and what sticks out in order to hide the hopper... and the odd ways they hold their markers - that can't be comfortable. They have to do a contortionist act... it seems. This problem is non-existant with a warp. It's easy to keep your elbows and shoulders in, and keep everything behind the bunker... it's not just your hopper that stays concealed.

It's just a matter of quickly pivoting your marker with a warp, you don't have to change how you hold your marker.

[RoadDawg]

Originally posted by Tyger

I've got mine set up with a Richochet hopper, tucks it nicely out of the way. I've got big hands too, and it works for me. Thought about bolting a Halo on there, but why bother? I'm not outshooting this rig yet...

-Tyger

That's how I run my setup. The Rico fits closer w/o modding then any other hopper. I've tried putting my TSA and Halo A on the warp setup but it just doesn't come out right. I do use the TSA when I need the extra paint (backman version) and I use the Rico 2k when I'm up front (beeps every 150 shots telling me to reload). I couldn't be happier with that setup.

[tony3]

Originally posted by RoadDawg

I've heard several people cry about the battery wires and yet I've had one problem (bought it used and it came with a broken wire). Other then that I've had no problems with any of it. Other then loosing the springs when I clean it but now that it's intellilinked I don't need those. The weight isn't that big of an issue with me. Ya it's an extra 15 oz but on the right setup it balances out the marker. It is personal preferences but Tony I don't think 2 weeks is enough time to get accustomed to the warp. I had it for at least 3 weeks before I finally learned how to use it correctly and to my advantage. I will say though. If people don't want them that's fine. I'll have that little extra help on my side.

I think my battery wires were re-soldered before I got it, so they were weaker already, but it was a problem with me and I didn't feel like dealing with it every time I wanted to play. I had used a warp before I bought mine, I borrowed a teammates for 2 days of play. I just didn't like the extra pound when I'm running 50. I like putting my hopper on, turning my gun on, and playing, the warp didn't let me do this.