Bounces (not trigger) getting out of hand

[Lohman446]

Ok... heres what brought this to mind, Im sitting bowling with the people who I play paintball with and someone asks me if Im buying a warp or C4 pants first - now no judging my answer as wrong, just understand it. I told them the pants, cause I thought they would improve my game more, and I was dead serious.

The fact of the matter is, a good jersey and good pants will gain me bounces on my errors.

Look at the advertisements for masks, especially the profiler (I use this example cause IM looking at it). I mean, the special bounce visor??

Look at the slider shorts - hip padding to prevent bunker bruising?? WTF?

Isn't this all getting out of hand?

[nt2004]

i'm not sure if people are buying jerseys and pants for increased chance of bounce. Most people, including me, buy these things for comfort. I love the padding on my pants because they protect my knees when i'm kneeling behind bunkers all the time. People like hip pads because it hurts to slide on you hip in some terrain. The jerseys are also designed for sliding. If anyone wanted to increasee bounces they'd just wear a couple of sweaters, not buy jerseys with a couple millimeters of padding.

[Sean "Chuffy" Combs]

For me, I wanted the jersey and pants so I could clean up and not have to worry about oil spots on my "normal" clothes.

My brother played in one of his nice sweaters one day when it was chilly here.. and although the color is gone, the "oil" spot it left behind is not.

[CodeMA]

ya, baggy pants are absolutely a must for most...

I sport Smokin pants, pads in... biggest size they make(ok Im a big guy anyway, I was expecting them to fit normal, but there like ballons on my legs ) and well, the legs are so nice and baggy, that with the pad inserts in, I have around a 65-1 bounce-break ratio over all, and one break was on my kneecap just above were the pad was at the time, and the other at a pocket(wallet/keys in) were I got hit for about 10 yards, and thats about it...

Ive stood there with my leg out at the curve of a spool(working on feild still, hadnt got all the blocks there to prevent this), I heard three hit, and 5 follow,as I pulled my leg, all hitting, none busting...thats some crazyness there

also, padded headbands, thats what there for... I currently sport a skull cap, and long hair to stuff under it partially, same effect.. last weekend for example, I was going in for a nice game closeing move, I make my run out of my primary back to the 35 box, the ushall, head down, marker back, hand over lense... sure enough... twack, like a beer bottle on the head, someone at the 50 put one to the top left side of my head....hitting my bunker I tounched my head, no paint, however there was a knot forming, about that time the guy I thought I hit at the other side of the 50 lit me up, but the head shot I took, deffently did not break, though by the time I made it to the dead box, you could see the rise in my skullcap were the knot had grown and pressed into the fabric...

jeresys baggy, yep... they help too 1 or 2+ sizes bigger seems to be a common thing, if not more for some, it gets crazy... but yes, it works, so people use this as an advantage...and it looks cool at the same time

[50 cal]

Good example of what you are talking about Lohman, is the new Dye jerseys. I call 'em cheater jerseys.

[Lohman446]

You mean the padding on the forearms of the C4 jerseys serves no purpose other than bounces? What do you mean?


LOL - before you all accuse me of being hypocritical, yes I have the C4 gear - that does not mean I do not think it is getting out of hand.

[Brophog]

Flat out, that's all cheating.

Sorry if I ruffle some feathers here, but baggy clothes, padded clothes, some mesh jersey's, padded masks, padded hats.

People that use these ARE ALL CHEATING

I can't believe we have some of the same people waiting to string up paintball companies for ethical behaviors, yet resort to the same bogus ethics when it comes to play.

You are intentionally trying to get a paintball, that fairly hit you, and keep it from breaking. That is poor sportmanship, and very bad ethics.

The rules need to be much better enforced, and all of you punished for such behavior. You might as well wipe and play on while your at it.


Blame the ref for calling you out too, that always works as well.

[tyrion2323]

I buy my jerseys and pants so that they fit like normal clothing. I'm not into this whole "bounce" BS. If you're getting lots of bounces - that tells you something about your skills.

[barberjohn]

at first i thought my new c4 jersey was just padded for comfort, but now you guys are making me think otherwise...

[DementedRabbit]

Don't cry when someone lights you up to get a break.

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by Brophog
Flat out, that's all cheating.

Sorry if I ruffle some feathers here, but baggy clothes, padded clothes, some mesh jersey's, padded masks, padded hats.

People that use these ARE ALL CHEATING

I can't believe we have some of the same people waiting to string up paintball companies for ethical behaviors, yet resort to the same bogus ethics when it comes to play.

You are intentionally trying to get a paintball, that fairly hit you, and keep it from breaking. That is poor sportmanship, and very bad ethics.

The rules need to be much better enforced, and all of you punished for such behavior. You might as well wipe and play on while your at it.


Blame the ref for calling you out too, that always works as well.

Am I following the spirit of the rule? Not a chance. Am I following teh wording of the rule - even thats close. Am I doing the same thing everyoen else is, yep. Does that make it right? Nope...


FYI - No I don't wipe, I don't trigger bounce, and I question this. But it is legal, and until the point it is reigned in, I guess I'm on board. THat does not make it right, though I do sleep at night.

[Brophog]

FYI - No I don't wipe, I don't trigger bounce, and I question this. But it is legal, and until the point it is reigned in, I guess I'm on board. THat does not make it right, though I do sleep at night.

That's the point right there. Businesses sue each other, back stab each other, and file bogus law suits every day. Smart Parts does that, and everyone is calling for their head. They're doing it because everyone else is. That does not make it right.

Paintball is full of hypocrisy, and this clothing is just a continuation of it.

[jimmyjobob]

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posted by Brophog

Flat out, that's all cheating.

Sorry if I ruffle some feathers here, but baggy clothes, padded clothes, some mesh jersey's, padded masks, padded hats.

People that use these ARE ALL CHEATING

sorry but I have to disagree with you there. i dont think that it makes that much of a difference. sometimes its just luck or a bad bounce and it can work the other way.

besides with the ROF, and amount of paint thrown in games i dont think these small advantages make you a cheater. i wear a jersey that may be a little baggy but thats about it. if i get a bounce of off it, do i call myself out, hell no, not unless it broke. if in doubt call paint check. these are the rules.

[Lohman446]

Can I agree with you, continue doing it, and admit it makes me look like, or be a hypocrite. Sometimes I complain about the direction things head, but make no movement to stop them, perhaps that makes me part of the problem.

And I would like to tell you, given the chance, knowing that potentially millions of dollars rode on it, that I would without hesitation make the same decisions TK has in the past, and I beleive I would have over time, but the SP path would be tempting, even if that does not make it right.

[spantol]

Heh. It's great that paintball now has its own version of Godwin's Law.

Originally posted by Brophog


That's the point right there. Businesses sue each other, back stab each other, and file bogus law suits every day. Smart Parts does that, and everyone is calling for their head. They're doing it because everyone else is. That does not make it right.

Paintball is full of hypocrisy, and this clothing is just a continuation of it.