Bounces (not trigger) getting out of hand

[Lohman446]

Just for the record, in recball and practice, I wear jeans and a t-shirt... no spare bounces there, but I do have clothes for tournaments too

[DementedRabbit]

Good luck getting a leg break off MC Hammer there.

[GoatBoy]

I honestly think that extra padding slows you down, and wears you down as you play. Maybe MC Hammer over there actually needs bounce protection because MC hammer doesn't look like he's making it to any bunker very quickly.

And that's going to be your tradeoff... bounce protection at the expense of weight or just extra bulk and discomfort. It's kind of an age-old armor tradeoff.

I think a better player will be keeping himself pretty much tucked in. If the only things on him that are usually showing are his mask and gun, is he really doing himself a favor by wearing extra protection? Are you willing to trade some of your ability to keep from being hit for some vague probability of a bounce? Hell, the same goes for paint pods. If you habitually found yourself not using more than one extra pod a game, would you continue wearing 10 of them out onto the field? Or 5? Or even 3?

From my end, I generally treat it like a wipe. If I hit you once, I can hit you again. This is more often the case than not. I have had very few instances of where I bounced paint off someone but I didn't eventually take them out that game. Have a little faith in yourself.

If you get hit so much as to make bounce protection noticeable, then I think your game's already kind of lacking. Feel free to wear an inflatable costume, a full-auto gun, and 10 pods onto the field.

[Off Center]

I'd rather see most of my fellow players in baggy clothes than in spandex.

[Chojin Man]

Originally posted by GoatBoy
And that's going to be your tradeoff... bounce protection at the expense of weight or just extra bulk and discomfort. It's kind of an age-old armor tradeoff.

I dont think that the extra weight of baggy clothes is that noticeable or uncomfortable for that matter.

[Brophog]

Originally posted by Off Center
I'd rather see most of my fellow players in baggy clothes than in spandex.

I bet you do.....

[MrWallen]

Well I'll say one thing, you definately get a LOT more bounces off of jerseys/pants than other types of regular clothing.

I was reffing a game, standing 3 feet away from a guy in a jersey and literally say 6 balls fly in, all bounced. The guy shooting at him was pissed too, because he thought they broke.

[Beemer]

I'd rather see most of my fellow players in baggy clothes than in spandex.

Aww come on Spandex IS COOL

[Gabriel]

Originally posted by Brophog

A couple millimeters is not 'highly padded'. Although I disagree with padding anywhere other than knees, I don't think a few mm is going to hurt. And I do were layers, because I dont like welts. I wear a normal-fitting long sleave t-shirt, and then a mesh shirt over that. Is that cheating? No. That's comfort. Not only that, but most of the comments here are again relating to speed or tourney ball. A small portion of the sport. I have never seen a woodsballer show up in one of these so-called 'bouncer' jerseys.

Gabe

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by Gabriel


A small portion of the sport. I have never seen a woodsballer show up in one of these so-called 'bouncer' jerseys.

Gabe

I play both, and we need to realize in this sport that people who cheat are not only found on the speedball field. This whole woodball players are more honest.. etc. is questionable and just another one of the cover this up so we don't have to deal with it things. I have seen more blatant attempts at cheating in woodsball then I care to recall. "What do you mean I can't be shooting 380FPS, its what we do at my house". And yeh, some of everday clothing will get more bounces than jerseys - which I have worn playing woodsball. But, I digress, I'm not really into arguing the point, but cheating has become a part of most large group games, be them tournaments, speedball, recball, woodsball, whatever. I think we need to accept it in order to figure out what to do about it.

[fallout11]

Lohman is quite right.

Recognizing and accepting that a problem exists is the first step towards correcting it.

Unfortunately, human nature appears to be such that 'we' are always searching for some advantage, fair or not.
Our competitive society encourages us silly humans to get ahead whenever possible, regardless of the consequences, or the effect on others. Darwinism, if you will, the law of the jungle. Devil take the hindmost.
Paintball players are no different, unfortunately.

But it does not have to be this way. Society developed concepts such as law, honor, and mutual respect, to aid people in their struggle against our baser instincts. We simply need to stand up, and say "this is not right".
Take a stand.

[Smoke]

Originally posted by Brophog
Flat out, that's all cheating.

Sorry if I ruffle some feathers here, but baggy clothes, padded clothes, some mesh jersey's, padded masks, padded hats.

So what if people wear baggy clothes? I wear baggy clothes outside of paintball as well, so does that mean I'm a cheater? I own a red Dye '03 jersey (yes it has the padding), and I bought it because it's what I could afford ( 30% off when I purchased it), so does that mean that I'm a cheater?

As a head referee at an indoor field, I see no problem with padded anything, because frankly it just dosen't work. At the close range we play at, you could be wearing 2 inches of padding and it still won't really help you. One time I shot a kid wearing a winter coat and the ball still broke.

[AGDlover]

I don't care about the bounceing and all that I care about comfort and style. Its not allways about the bounch In fact some of the old DYE jersey (I think the 03's) had so much padding, 9/10 hits bounced and were automaticly made turny Illegle because of it.

[TheTramp]

Originally posted by DementedRabbit
Don't cry when someone lights you up to get a break.

EXACTLY!

I'll shoot you till I see a break. If your fluffy clothing means it takes 20 shots....you'll get 20 shots.

[robdamanii]

Let's put it this way...

I bought a pair of Nexed pants, size XL. I wear a 32 or 34 waist, depending on the kind of pants, and I'll tell you...the baggy part of those pants keeps the hits from reffing a bunch of newbies down pretty well.

To a tourney? I'm going to be wearing something like my DYEs to play in, because they just scream good comfort for playing tight bunkers and such.