Paintball pants vs. BDUs

[Lohman446]

Originally posted by Tyger


Well, the logic is sound, except that pants are an object that is a seasonal buy. You don't replace your gun, mask, and air tank every year. Pants, you do.

-Tyger

I replace my air tanks every year, and my mask - as far as I am concerned these are safety related items and have a "useable" life. Overboard, probably.

And i have to agree with the logic of 'Newt on this. Most players spend at least $50 a week to play - now some people don't play as often or spend as much. For those that are in the category of $50 a week in paint (or more) C4s are not that much. The big thing I noticed with my C4s over the jeans I wore last year - well the first time I slid I hit the bunker hard - those C4s don't stop you quick in a slide.

And the argument for those that play tournaments is the same argument as having a never used backup marker. You spend a lot of money going to tournaments, buying paint, paying entry fee. C4s, be it right or not, help you stay in the game longer. Just 'cause I sit there and say "bouncey bouncey" whenver I put them on for luck...

[Shykicker]

Wow, I'm certianly glad I found this thread. The digital desert camo looks great! Might buy some of those. In fact, I'm designing a jersey just now based on the digital BDU's. Maybe I'll custom order the jersey. Maybe I won't. Very least, I'll get some practice. If anyone wants to see, drop me an EMAIL. [email protected]

Also, if anybody's looking for some better looking camo designs, look no farther than here:

http://www.soldiercity.com/departments.asp?dept=21&last=21

The prices suck, but it's a good variety of camo colors and designs if you're lookign for something better than forest camo. Personally, I'm not looking to blend in with anything, so the blue and red camos are fair play.

Paintball pants may be a bit more functional, but I staunchly advocate style-over-substance any day. And for $20-30, how can you go wrong?

Don't answer that. I know. But all the same.

[RRfireblade]

I don't think the question is how much any thing actually costs,it's what the buyer considers a 'value'. Whether it's $1k for gun or $50 for pants.Who here shoots a 1K gun and didn't look for a good deal? Did you just pay full MSRP? Don't think so in most cases .The simple fact is that 'paintball' specific pants,IMO,do not seem like a good value.I have motorcross pants and BMX pants that are equally constucted and as durable(if not more so in some cases) and typically cost half as much as many 'paintball' specific pants.Add to that the fact that it's near impossible to buy a pair of Pball pants with out being forced into massive brand advertising.I would and have purchased them on occasion when a 'deal' comes along but over all it's not important to me what I play in as long as it gets the job done overall and keep my goodies from geting sun burn.

[Shykicker]

Right on with the advertising bit. Same reason I don't buy Nike or Fubu stuff. They're not bad clothes, but the fact that the logos have to be on EVERYTHING strikes me as, well, tackey. Again with the substance over style, but that's just me.

[GoatBoy]

how much is $30USD worth, in US dollars?

Originally posted by Albinonewt

Well, since i specifically said to BUY WHAT YOU LIKE i don't understand how its a waste to spend the extra $30 on something that you prefer. My point is simply if after you've sunk a grand or more into the sport why balk on pants that you prefer because of $30?

If you truly prefer them, then hey, it's your prerogative. You know what it's worth to you.

But $30 is still $30. All your money comes from the same pool of money that you could be spending elsewhere, no matter how much you decide to throw away in one specific area. I hate it when people trivialize extra expenditures. They all add up. And, as it has been mentioned before, pants can be recurring expenses.

There's a clear difference between "buying quality goods", and "it's only money." I have no problem with the former. It's the latter attitude I don't agree with.

Your argument read to me like this:

$1000 + $50 + $20 + $200 + $10 = $1280

Therefore $30 = $0

Comparatively speaking, $30 extra wouldn't be my first paintball expenditure. It also wouldn't be my last. I guess it's a matter of viewpoints. You're looking back at all the money you've spent in the past; I'm thinking of all the things I could be spending my money on in the future.


Plus saving $30 only matters if what you're purchasing is comparable, which by most people's accounts here it is not. If the BDU's were lasting everyone as long as the paintball pants were then it wouldn't be a contest. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

The thread seems to be full of reasonable alternatives.

Apparently on the nexed pants the products are similar, but i've never seen anything like the C4 pants except from dye.

I agree that the value judgement is not so strong when you don't have similar products, although you start wading into the area of "does it really matter". I won't get into that; I'll just concede the C4 portion of your argument for now.

Plus, who cares where it comes from? Supposadly your paintball gun came from a paintball company, so theyve already got your support. If someone likes their pants "I don't support paintball companies (the very companies that make your posrt possible i might add) seems like a pretty lame excuse.

I care where my money goes. I try to spend my money responsibly. Sometimes, it's not possible to hold to every ideal. Pants seem to be an easy evasion for me. Wait, that didn't quite sound right. You know what I meant.

My main markers are automags for a reason. I can respect the work they put into paintball, and into their products.

Conversely, I have never owned any Dye equipment, new or used, past or present. The future? Who knows, I might have a breakdown soon... (Oh crap. I just looked on my desk and realized I have one Dye product now in my possession; just arrived today.)

There have been projects with online shopping where they try to profile the users, and then adjust prices accordingly. If they feel that someone may be willing to pay a higher price for a product, they raise the price artificially on them in the system.

How do you feel about something like that? Based on your earlier argument, I guess a system like this would be extremely successful if they kept a running total of all money you've ever spent shopping with them and displayed it, so that the price in the 'big picture' wouldn't look so bad.

It's not like I don't want to support the sport of paintball. I guess I have my own idea of who/what I think is contributing to our sport, and who/what is detracting from it.


So you're saying that the BDU's aren't exactly cut out for paintball, yet the extra $30 for pants designed for the sport are a waste?

Is there a problem with questioning everything equally?

BDU durability is questionable in my mind.

$30 extra on pants rebranded (er, I mean, designed) for paintball seems to be a waste.

There appear to be other alternatives.

I see no conflict.

Particularly since I wear shorts most of the time when I play paintball.


Kind of funny; this type of discussion used to be over jerseys. What's next? Shoes? Jock straps? Toilet paper?

[JonDaAzn]

I haven't read through the entire thread, but I'd just like to put my 2 cents in, I prefer paintball pants over BDUs, I have destroyed 4 pairs of BDUs playing paintball, mostly from rips right down the crotch (never reinforce that, wonder why), and knees from doing slides but, I just got a pair of NIB PJ antron pants and I have to say they are build like a tank, totally indestructible, and the best thing, built in pads, no more wearing those tourniquets around my knees anymore!

[DK1]

BDU's, I've been using the same pair for about 4 years now. They just started this season to loose a little knee in my kneeling side. But, they have double knees, so it's not too bad.

Those of you who have gone through several pair, make sure you're getting the rip stop fabric kind... much more durable.

As for the "you spent so much on your other gear, pants are cheap" argument. Well, I spend how ever much I need to spend to get the performance I need. Paintball specific pants offer me no benefit over BDUs. They aren't more durable (in my experience), they don't fit or feel any better. They may get more bounces, but I'm against "bounce enhancement" anyway. I personally think it's legal cheating. I play in t-shirts and pants, single layers, no knee pads, no elbow pads, no chest or neck protectors. I think it's absolutly rediculous that people play in beanies when it's 85 or 90 degree weather. The only reason I use a tank cover is to protect the tank (and yes, it's a rhino cover ). I don't use a sqeegee holder because I don't really use a squeegee on the field much. SO, why *would* I spend $75 on something that offers me nothing? I've recently been looking into getting some paintball specific pants, but the more I look, the more I realize that it's cheaper to either stick with BDUs or get a different sport's clothes (like MX or hockey).

:-P

DK1

[Major Ho]

Listen, if the people insist on going out and buying brand name DYE, JT Paintball Junkies, Empire pants and the like at prices around the $60-80+ range I would suggest purchasing a pair of Motocross or Downhill biking pants. Same price if not cheaper and better quality
The padding and construction quality is definetely better than namebrand DYE pants and the like. I bet taking a spill off your bike going double digit MpHs speeds and still keep on tickin can take on anything paintball related.

After all JT used to make some snazzy motocross pants until Brass Eagle had to go and corrupt them
These specs seem similiar? you tell me which is for paintball and which is for motocross
-840 denier nylon construction
-1000 denier butt panel for durability
-New style dual adjustable waist belt system
-Honeycomb mesh front panels for ventilation
-Expanding 6-panel knee system to fit all types of knee protection
-Ultra tough, high grade Schoeller-Keprotec inner knee
-Mesh lower legs for comfort
-Bio-foam lower back panel
-Chrome leg logos

1000 denier ballistic nylon
Cordura satinyl
Breathable stretch mesh lower back
Patent pending cargo pockets
Stretch crotch
Adjustable waist tabs
Dual rear venting
Reinforced Kevlar mix knees
Drawstring cuffs

[Raven4000SX]

Nothing beats the AGD Thong.

[PaintballSmurf13]

pb pants= survive my slides, diving, etc.
bdu's and other= don't
-Ryan