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  • Mr. Frodo
    Omen Owner!
    • Apr 2004
    • 55

    #1

    New 03 Shocker vs Used Emag

    Which one would you more experienced people pick?

    I was settled on getting a used basic Emag until a guy at a local shop suggested I seach online for a new 2003 Shocker. The overall price difference is why I'm even considering it, and here's the reason: I don't have an HPA tank, but I do have a couple CO2 tanks. Since an Emag requires HPA, the total cost will eventually be ~$800 (about $600 for the marker and $200 for a decent tank). A new 2003 Shocker (no vision) is $699 online, and it can used CO2. The lack of upgrade potential is the only downside when compared with an Emag. I'll be happy if it can shoot faster than I can pull the trigger, so speed is not the issue here. Reliability and looks are.
  • CoFFeY[NiTrO]
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    • Sep 2001
    • 3222

    #2
    i would go with the emag if it has lvl 10. I'm no genious, but you might chop with the shocker and no vison

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    • the larch
      Registered User
      • May 2003
      • 376

      #3
      Buy the emag. You'll be with a company that gives a darn and actually has a forum like this. Why would you ever support a company that would patent the barrel condom....?
      I envy you that you have the money to make the choice. BTW, ever consider selling your two CO2 tanks and finding a nice adjustable HPA tank on ebay?
      Probably could find the emag there too.
      If you are going to your proshop to buy it when you have access to the internet, you are probably looking at spending much more than you have too.
      Lotsa really cool stuff pops up on the buyer/seller section of this forum alone.
      This is were I built my mag at half price. Good luck.
      BTW, I sold both of my shockers to play with a mag.
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      • wantamag
        Rec Poster
        • Mar 2003
        • 5055

        #4
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        ide def go with the e-mag for performance and reliability and there is NO WAY that i would use co2 on that shocker

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        • 1stdeadeye
          Still around????
          • Jun 2002
          • 8501

          #5
          No way should you use CO2 on the new Shocker! \

          Smart Parts says you can with an anti siphon tank, but that thing is going to freeze burn you under rapid fire!

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          • SanDiegoMag
            tOO MaNy LaDiEs!
            • Apr 2004
            • 183

            #6
            Next thing you know Smart Parts will try to patent co2, BOYCOT SMART PARTS. Go with the e-mag.

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            • FallNAngel
              Registered User
              • Apr 2003
              • 1076

              #7
              Originally posted by 1stdeadeye
              No way you can use CO2 on the new Shocker! Who told you you could?
              That's what I was thinking. The only way I could possibly think that would fly is if the MaxFlo was supposed to prevent the suction of CO2 in the tank... I wouldn't trust it though. Personally, I'd go with the ULE E-Mag over the Shocker
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              • 1stdeadeye
                Still around????
                • Jun 2002
                • 8501

                #8
                Originally posted by FallNAngel
                That's what I was thinking. The only way I could possibly think that would fly is if the MaxFlo was supposed to prevent the suction of CO2 in the tank... I wouldn't trust it though. Personally, I'd go with the ULE E-Mag over the Shocker
                I actually edited my post after reading the Shocker Manual. Link above! I wouldn't trust it though on such an expensive marker!

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                • logamus
                  Registered Abuser
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 2346

                  #9
                  well i traded my all ule emag for a vision shocker. im not sitting in the corner crying either. the shocker is a great gun, its way lighter than my full ule emag, stock gets about the same efficiency, shoots at least as fast as my mag did, and the last time i played i went all day with vision off and never chopped one time. other than the efficency issues (which compaired to a mag are a wash) i think the shocker is a better gun. a $90 upgraded bolt from sp will give you efficency mag owners cant even dream of and you can use co2 if you so choose. the only downside is the fact that there are not as many choices for barrels with the shocker as you would have for the cocker threaded ule. not a major issue, just worth pointing out.

                  keep in mind when posting on an AUTOMAG website that the views will always be somewhat slanted. the same will hold true to any owners group though, just keep that in mind.


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                  • gtrsi
                    Automag?
                    • Dec 2001
                    • 5786

                    #10
                    could be wrong but I thought all new shockers came with the newer style bolt?????

                    Honestly,
                    the hard part is finding a used ULE emag. The tend to hold there value and are in the 7-800's easy. For that little amount of cash I would not get either one.

                    My suggestion is to wait and not get either one. play with what you have now and save up a few hundred bucks more, then come back with the same question.
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                    • logamus
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                      • Dec 2002
                      • 2346

                      #11
                      the shockers now come with an aluminum bolt instead of the delrin one that the first 3900 had. i am talking about the new "turbo charger" bolt. its sp's high efficency bolt that gets around 1600-1700 off a 68/4.5.


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                      • 68magOwner
                        Registered User
                        • May 2003
                        • 3475

                        #12
                        plan on using HPA for both (although, yes, the shocker dosent "need" it) also, dont count $200 fo ryour tank, my friend got a 68/3k flatline (decent adjustable) for $120 here on AO

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                        • Butterfingers
                          PhD in Automagology
                          • Jan 2001
                          • 2263

                          #13
                          Go to www.shockerowners.com and post the same...

                          Get a spectrum of opinions...

                          From what Iv'e seen lately... the gun isnt exactly problem free... id say 2 out of the 10 shockers that ive seen lately had some MAJOR chopping/ball breakage problems. Some had FSDO, some worked perfect.

                          I would hold on getting a shocker until they get problems ironed out.

                          Some peeps are having problem with the front bolt o-ring shredding paintballs.

                          This of course would not be a problem if they put the o-ring on the bolt INSTEAD of in the breach like its been done for YEARS.

                          The e-mag is tried and true. Easier to maintain and with the LX almost chop proof if you tune it right. I can't say the same about non-vision or even vision shockers.

                          Ive gone almost a year and a half without a SINGLE chop from my LX mag on average about a case every 2 weeks. Thats around 72,000 rds...
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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #14
                            If I had to buy something from SP... ok lets not go there

                            Add to your list of options a Rat Impulse - I think you are getting a much much better gun for the money wihtout the problems of the Shocker... I also of course have to add the Viking as well as a large number of markers I cannot possible mention all of
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                            • Skoad
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2002
                              • 3265

                              #15
                              Well hard decision. Shocker is smart parts = boo.

                              I was not impressed with my emag. Didn't think it was worth the money. Might look at other options too in the price range.

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