New 03 Shocker vs Used Emag

[AGDlover]

ok switch to mech and see withch one wins?(hehe 03shocker isn't mech ehehehe i'm so cleaver)

[Mr. Frodo]

Thanks for all your help! I decided to order an Omen, and it arrived on Monday (so happy!). I'm still breaking in the reg by dry firing it, but I ran out of CO2 too soon. And yes, CO2 does work, but I'm getting an HPA tank anyway.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=137955

I've tuned the recock to the point where it will go into a full auto burst at just the right trigger pressure. More pressure will only shoot one ball, and less pressure won't active the micro switch at all. I'm looking forward to playing with it this weekend.... has anyone here ever played at Loki Paintball in Prosper?

[FalconGuy016]

Thats neat, I'd never thought of c02 that way. You should make a thread based on that

On the issue: I have a non vision 2k3 shocker and my friend just bought a micro E. All I can really say is, you have to try both out for yourself.

[845]

Without vision the emag will beat the shocker, however with vision I would take the shocker over the emag any day. If you decide on the shocker get a vert max flo cause the bottom grip one feels funny cause the tank is in a funny position on your shoulder.

[madmatt151]

Well, I have been playing for over 10 years, and have shot mags for most of that time. I recently got my first emag and it is great, I love mags and would always recommend them. A friend of mine was just getting into the sport about 5 months ago. He wanted a good gunand I was recommending many of the "beginner" electros to him. I was really trying to get him to buy a BKO. Everyone said good things and the price was right. We drove to a local store where they had many to choose from and after looking at a lot of markers he picked up an 03 shocker and fell in love. He got the light blue one and paid $975 for the marker with matching Max Flo tank. I thought this was a great deal and honestly it shoots great. I can barely walk most electros, and I was ripping on it. It is extremely light, and he was a small guy so he liked that alot. He had absolutely no problems, except for some adjustments needed on the Max Flo. The forst game we played together I was amazed by the stream of paint he was laying for me. I was finding it very hard to say bad things about it. Now I love my emag, but I can definitely see the good things with this marker. It isn't big and bulky, which is why I am drawn to mags. It is very light, and it seems to be pretty efficient. I mean coming from mags anything is more efficient. You should figure on what kind of style you are looking for and how the both of them feel. I personally like to tinker wiht things and fix them. This is a good thing because most people and fields have never seen a mag or emag and couldn't help you fix it. Shockers are all over and easy to find help. Determine if you are a person who wants to bring thier marker to someone to fix or if you like to tinker and do it yourself. Just my $.02.

[Smoke]

Go to www.shockerowners.com and post the same...

Get a spectrum of opinions...

From what Iv'e seen lately... the gun isnt exactly problem free... id say 2 out of the 10 shockers that ive seen lately had some MAJOR chopping/ball breakage problems. Some had FSDO, some worked perfect.

I would hold on getting a shocker until they get problems ironed out.

Some peeps are having problem with the front bolt o-ring shredding paintballs.

This of course would not be a problem if they put the o-ring on the bolt INSTEAD of in the breach like its been done for YEARS.

The e-mag is tried and true. Easier to maintain and with the LX almost chop proof if you tune it right. I can't say the same about non-vision or even vision shockers.

Ive gone almost a year and a half without a SINGLE chop from my LX mag on average about a case every 2 weeks. Thats around 72,000 rds...

Every single new Shocker I've seen has had major problems.

[logamus]

Every single new Shocker I've seen has had major problems.

mine works perfectly. it has worked perfectly since the day i got it. 5 cases and not one chop, sometimes vision was on sometimes not. really cheap paint, sometimes not. the 3 other new shockers that i have seen have had the same kind of success that i have had too. if you want to talk reliability, at my team practice this past weekend i played every game that i was there for and for a good chunk of the time i watched a fella on my team work on his emag. he worked and worked and worked and couldnt fix it.

moral, not every new shocker has problems and not every emag is problem free.

[magmonkey]

I have a few customers with 03 shockers.

only one is consistantly happy with his marker

one is a brand new dynasty that is back at smart parts for a second time (before the marker has made it to the field)

a hand full of $30.00 or ring kits
2 blown noids (that will be fixed if you buy a MUCH needed manifold to attach a lpr)

the thing that annoys me the most about the design of the marker is (i was told it has been fixxed on newer makers)
that if you break paint in the marker and want to do a decent job cleaning it
you go to remove the noid to run the body under water just undo the two bolts right .....WRONG you have to disassemble the noid to take it out because the have seen fit to solder a circuit board on top of it and you cannot take it off in one piece.


out of the guys who have them ONE is happy with it and the rest are not overwhelmingly impressed

as for the emag mine is #152 and has been plugging away with only one trip back to agd for a software update that took almost no time


plus take a stand,
smart parts is doing the wrong things to our sport , please don't support them

[logamus]

plus take a stand,
smart parts is doing the wrong things to our sport , please don't support them

so is wdp, should we hate angels now too?

why in the world would you need to tear the gun down to the noid after breaking a ball? im not sure how healthy it is to be that anal about ones gun.