What is AGD doing in the future?

[Jack_Dubious]

but in the end the 3 tourney guns (68 special, Cocker, mag & later to add the shocker and angel) but the mags could easily outshoot/out-perform the Tippmanns and the Cockers and still hold their own with the other 2.

Hey now...dont forget the PMI-3 (vm-68)! I remember the All Americans winning a few with the trusty ole PMI-3, and thier new high tech spiral ported rifled barrels (patent pending). Gimme a PMI-3 over a 68 Special anyday!

JDub

[Silverback]

If-in I'm recalling correctly, and most of the time I do... The PMI-3 was also the only gun to OUT WEIGH the 68 Special. then when ya added the 20 oz. tank, a barrel, and a hopper full of paint, you needed two people to lug the thing around!!

It was fairly reliable though.

... And it did weigh alot... may not so it took two people to carry, just one body builder with a tactical sling would work.

[bunker17]

History a good class to sleep

[Big Head]

The promblem with "MAGS SUCK" is that people that think that have never even gased a MAG up! I've been playing this "GAME" since 93' and Mags are the only guns I have ever owned! I played with every other gun out there, but the money I spend is on AGD. Angels Timmy's Shockers and every electro on the marker....you can have them!! When they have promblems....there done....Mags have promblems.....give me 5 mins. and I back up and running!! The best thing is playing and kicking everybodys butt with my "sucky Mag" or waiting for a game to start and a bunch of players coming by wondering what the heck kind of marker I have! I hope you "AGD" build a super Mech Gun....and have the same quality as the rest of your products!! AGD for life!!

[Scott Hudnall]

I've been a tournament and rec player since 1992. When we migrated to 'mags back then, we started winning. I've gone through 2 shockers since....now I'm back to an ancient mag which I love. I'm sorry to see that Tom has chosen the phrase "demise" to describe the automag/minimag line. I think it should continue, if cost feasible......keep the upgrades....it's a great product. Work on a new product....cool....the ULE line is great and the new body styles coming out that you see online are cool. I like the Xmag's breach design....could keep that.

The 'mag valve being old skool technology? hardly. it's so far ahead of the curve that it's scary!!!!! The other companies would kill to have the patent on the 'mags valve design.

my 2 cents. former paintball businessman. certainly not uninformed. keep the faith.

[Head knight of Ni]

Why get rid of the Mag name? Did anyone else think spinoff. Not many people know who is behind function, but would still buy their products. Don't let the Mag die!!!
Viva le 'Mag! Viva le AGD!!

[Shykicker]

Perhaps something more derivitive, abeit devoid of "mag"? Auto-something.

I dunno, I got nuthin'.

Just, the last thing I want to see is something following suit with small animal names, or something like that. No AGD Cobras please!

As for what AGD is doing in the future...

Any chance of a line of 'Cocker threaded barrels to match the ULE's?

[Silverback]

You Speak Wisely my friend

The promblem with "MAGS SUCK" is that people that think that have never even gased a MAG up! I've been playing this "GAME" since 93' and Mags are the only guns I have ever owned! I played with every other gun out there, but the money I spend is on AGD. Angels Timmy's Shockers and every electro on the marker....you can have them!! When they have promblems....there done....Mags have promblems.....give me 5 mins. and I back up and running!! The best thing is playing and kicking everybodys butt with my "sucky Mag" or waiting for a game to start and a bunch of players coming by wondering what the heck kind of marker I have! I hope you "AGD" build a super Mech Gun....and have the same quality as the rest of your products!! AGD for life!!

I have always been amazed at how players will slam a product they have never even picked up, much less used.

They say, "Oh my friend had one, and he said it sucked." I want to back-hand them for talking stupid.

Players have criticized my Mag, even after they watch it work. I gave a demonstration one time to a bunch of people who said that "Mags break paint." one person even took it further and said that the "Smart Mag" was garbage. So I asked them if they had any old paint laying around. One person had some stuff, I don't even know what it was, but it looked like it had been stored in the frig. They looked more like little golf balls, and I could easily break them in my hand. So I put about a hundred of these balls in my hopper (Turned off, so as not to break em) And fired the whole mess through my mag without a break. I had to be carefull not to chop one but they all fired, one broke about half way down the barrel, but nothing in the breech. And this was YEARS before LVL 10.

I've also been told I couldn't shoot EVIL or HELLFIRE, I love the stuff!! and so does my Mags.

Just goes to show that rumor and gossip rule the world.

Tom, You and everyone at AGD... Keep up the fine work, we'll keep buying your product.

Speaking of which... Does anyone know where I can pick up a "Micro CA"?

[Intellimag]

Bad Karma!

Whoa! I had no idea AGD sponsored Bad Karma! Thats my local team! But also im cofused because I also had no idea Karma had a scenario team. Hmmm. Oh well....Thats awesome!

Later

[UltraMag527]

Two thumbs up for Tom and the team! I only know two markers in the paintball arena that to me has proven time and time again. Mags and Cockers. I have both and proud of it!

[Iron Mag13]

WOOOOOOOOT 100th post.....oh....yea GO TK!


Edit:nm someone got to me to early

[steveo356]

as far as the name changing least people wont end up at car sites or rims when there lookin for the good ol agd webby.

as for lying low idc as long as he comes back

love the low price strategy ;-)

n cant go wrong the the hair trigger i will most definently use when it comes out , but ill wait a bit for the bugs to get ironed out

[Darkstorm]

Keep it up Tom

Tom, , you make a great gun in the mechanical mag. I could have any gun I want and choose to play with a mechanical mag/x value. I don't get to play all the time and I want a great gun that ALWAYS works. Because it is consistent and never chops, I never have a problem in a game.

If you don't get to play as much as you want, and need a gun that always works, mechanical mag is the only way to go.

Darkstorm
(This product endorsement is now over and I return you to your regularly scheduled forum.)

[sporty86]

I have owned a mag for 9 yrs. now and have played tourneys for jus as long. The big problem wit the Mag is it got ugly as it got better. Hello here's the RT mag and it morphadite sightrail and ugly *** foregrip. Then we put out the e-mag, OMG, whats with the batterie thing, hahahahahaahhahahaha, joke. Oh yea and then u have the diehard mag owners and I think some of the very friendly, hehe, techs at AGD telling u that bolting on any other after market products is stupid and wrong, that helped. If it wasn't such a breeze to work on I would have traded up a long time ago. The ULE body helped me out allot, just the other day while I was playin at a local tourney a kid that shoots a DM4 asked someone what kind of gun I switched 2 cause I was "Slinging paint out like a madman". Oh yea the Hyper frame and Halo helped out allot also. Along with scrappin the name scrap some of the design (esthetics) crew and bring in some new young blood. Pump out a few new tricked out, full of color and crazy milled gunz every once and a while (not every 4 yrs) n watch them fly off the shelf. People want somtin they can work on and that looks sexy, ewww I said it, but thats what they want. Tom, give them what they want.

With love,
Philly Phil

[Miscue]

AGD Railgun! Everybody knows what a railgun is, and it brings back lots of positive - fond memories from sniping people with railguns in popular video games.

You need at least a 2-3 syllable name (also anticipating a shorter nickname, like Automag = Mag, Intimidator = Timmy) such that you can't attach the 'sucks' at the end. "Mags suck" rolls off the tongue really easily - seriously.

If the AutoMag was called the Sasquatch, nobody would say Sasquatchs suck because it's too hard and too long to say!

The marker needs to be what is popularly considered "low pressure" regardless of the lack of performance gains. It must be done to sell. This would mean the X-Valve, etc. would have to be ditched as we know it. If it sacrifices recharge rate - nobody cares or really understands what it is anyway. 99% of people out there have no clue as to what = performance, except for how fast it shoots and perception. It does not need to recharge to 26bps w/o dropoff. 16-18 is perfect, if this results in a cheaper/simpler regulator.

Needs an LX-II: Updated version of LX that works even better.

Gotta get rid of the long hose, run air through body. If you don't, people will make fun of it and call it stupid!

Need to organize mech only tournies, and form a monopoly in the scenario scene. Hell, just ask IAO/etc. to have a mech only division and see what they can do. Heck, the AO representation alone I think would result in a good number of people showing up. POG, etc. would probably also be interested. Cockers, Spyders, Mags, new AGD pending AGD marker... wouldn't that be a cool tourny?