If I were to get a non-AGD marker

[Miscue]

Out of curiousity, I posted this to get some feedback from non-AOers:

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=562025

[RainTreeBoy]

For ~500, I think the best contender new would be a B2K w/ PDS. You can find those for 545 at www.shop4paintball.com

Anyways, I agree with Miscue also. I dont think maybe people would be willing to go much over 600-650 for a mech marker.

Does anyone know if the next gun AGD releases will have anything else new other than the hAir trigger? I think if they release something new, they should completely make it over with new parts, not just a new frame. I'm sure most of the info floating around a new gun is just rumors, but I'm curious to know.

[jesseyo13]

If you mention that its a mag too, peoples opinions change a lot. For me a large portion of my gun choice is in effeicency. I got tired of only getting 600 of a 68/3000 fill and Im sure on not the only person who sold a mag for that reason.

[Blazestorm]

Miscue - Revenge V2 LE w/ 68/4500 Conquest... randomly my friend happens to have one for-sale... it's just out of your price range...

It's a mech cocker going for 800... 1100 with Conquest... I'm getting around 800 out of my Revenge... It's possible.

I recommend you get what you want, Get something from a respected company that's not going to give you problems. I already have my RT ULE, I plan on getting a few more things for it and finally getting a hAir trigger... It may be 250-300, but it's pure mechanical, solid reliability. I don't want to worry about electronics getting screwed in the NW because of rain or mud. I don't want to worry about replacing the battery or ruining some of the fragile electronics in these guns. People are going out and paying 130 dollars for a new board for the gun, that doesn't make it that much faster. hAir is just fast. .01" trigger pull, 2oz weight... that's going to be fuuunnnnn

If anything I think you should build a cocker from scratch for the hell of it... cockers are fun guns

[RainTreeBoy]

People are going out and paying 130 dollars for a new board for the gun, that doesn't make it that much faster. hAir is just fast. .01" trigger pull, 2oz weight... that's going to be fuuunnnnn

Actually thats a very good point. A lot of people pay lots of money to buy new boards and get magnetic frames or 90* Frames, so I dont see why a whole new frame thats completely mech with an electro pull is crazy. It would be cool if they could make it for cheaper though, because it would appeal to more people. I heard the hAir is going to be around 250-350, is that true?

[FragTek]

It's all about the Cyborg :) Sub $1000, and rips titties

[Miscue]

Miscue - Revenge V2 LE w/ 68/4500 Conquest... randomly my friend happens to have one for-sale... it's just out of your price range...

It's a mech cocker going for 800... 1100 with Conquest... I'm getting around 800 out of my Revenge... It's possible.

I recommend you get what you want, Get something from a respected company that's not going to give you problems. I already have my RT ULE, I plan on getting a few more things for it and finally getting a hAir trigger... It may be 250-300, but it's pure mechanical, solid reliability. I don't want to worry about electronics getting screwed in the NW because of rain or mud. I don't want to worry about replacing the battery or ruining some of the fragile electronics in these guns. People are going out and paying 130 dollars for a new board for the gun, that doesn't make it that much faster. hAir is just fast. .01" trigger pull, 2oz weight... that's going to be fuuunnnnn

If anything I think you should build a cocker from scratch for the hell of it... cockers are fun guns

Thanks. I'm not really looking for a marker, just asking a hypothetical question.

[Major Jam]

It's all about the Cyborg :) Sub $1000, and rips titties

OMG Frag, its tits... and it rips... but ripping titties sounds mean. :) I mean I like a soft caress as much as the next guy, but please don't rip them.

Add one more vote for the Cyborg.

[tyrion2323]

Here are some "In-Between" options. They have probably been posted, but I'm tired right now.

Evil Omen
BushMaster w/PDS
BushMaster BKO
OGI 03
Impulse (and its variants)
Hybrid Numatix (ebladed = $900)

I can hook you up with Hybrid if you're lookin.

Jacob

[DK1]

PDS bushmasters are what I would basically tell anyone to get if they are going to spend less than $700. They are really, really hard to beat. IMO, impulses require quite a bit of aftermarket gear to get them close to the stock performance of a PDS. And even at that, I've never liked any custom impulse as much as I did the two stock PDS bushy's I had.



DK1

[Koosh]

I think the hAirymag will take off, but it won't become the 'new tourney gun' for one simple reason.

You can't make cheater boards for mechanical guns. Too many people have signed on with SP for there to be a good enough market for the super-mechs...

Other then AGD, who's going to make them?

[trevorjk]

hrm a brand new ule pro from agd with black ule body stock on/off no barrel and basic trigger frame cost about $350... and lets say add a $300 hair frame. your still only $650ish so honestly i dont see how its going to be $900


3 RT-ULE Custom

Select an X-Valve : Black
Select a Mainbody : ULE CF Black Mainbody
Select a Gripframe : Single Trigger Carbon Fiber Frame Assy
Select a Barrel : No Barrel
Trigger/Valve/On/Off Type : On/Off Assy -RT/Retro (.750 Pin) - Stock Assy
Delivery Signature : No Signature on Delivery
Freight Insurance : Insurance

total = $351.00

add a speculated $300 to that for $651... so there for the hair mag will only be worth 900 if you get all the fancy nicad fixings

[SlipknotX556]

I would go for the E blade cocker, its probably the best of the 500-700 guns.

[Crazy]

GZ timmys are running ~550$ now... few upgrades if it's stock, and you have a gun that can rip grills off hardcore for less than 700$.

[Digits]

If you've shot something like a DM4 you will know why the price tag is on that marker.. Why should DYE lower the price when people are willing to pay that?

I know damn well I would pay what DYE is asking for a DM4... There is no other marker like it..