If I were to get a non-AGD marker

[Blazestorm]

People buy electro's so they can shoot faster. That's about it

They buy high-end electro's to have the best of the best.

[GT]

Sometimes I wonder why the price difference between an alias or DM4 and the viking exists.

Yea I dont get it either,
My featherlite is a custom one off gun and it will run aroud 1200 bucks. Considering you cant get a DM4 or Alais from the factory in any color you want. I dunno for 1k+ I want something no one else has.

[Creative Mayhem]

Yea I dont get it either,
Considering you cant get a DM4 or Alais from the factory in any color you want. I dunno for 1k+ I want something no one else has.

My thoughts exactly, which was a prime reason why I jumped on the chance to get my xmag.

[The Action Figure]

I have always wanted a viking but my bushy was cheaper and is pretty freaking fast with chaos< my total setup cost next to nothing>
gun with tank- 225
halo- traded
chao chip- 30
otb frame- 130
cp barrel 40

425 full setup w money for paint left over, its all about good deals my friend

[Creative Mayhem]

I forgot where Tom said it...

"Dye could make a pile of crap and sell millions... and Tippmann can get away with selling only Black guns..."

The thing with DYE is correct, because they spend mucho $$ on marketing and advertising.

Tippmann has a strong rental market, while it doesn't sound glamourous, it does get thier markers in the hands of the new player, and what does the new player usually go buy as thier first gun? The same thing that they used as a rental, proving that the thing wasn't a PITA when they played. Now I have had discussions with a few people about this and the consesus is that if Tom put mags with returned classic valves out there for the rental market, then more new players would not only play one of the best days of paintball, they would also buy a mag for thier first marker. Not only would it generate sales for AGD but it would also bring more people into the fold of AGD owners, and not just people who don't have one and are posing as AGD users :P

[Duke Henry]

Best value gun under $1000: DYE DM3. Tis the gun I own and it runs beautifully. Maintenance is near 0, and I can achieve high rates of fire without having an illegal trigger.

I don't care if my gun looks "plain' - if I really did then I would get the DM4. However, I don't see that as being worth the price.

[jesseyo13]

Creative mayham is right. Tom must have truck loads of old classic valves. If he could sell them for the same price as a 98 tippmann (140) then he could sell them like hot cakes. They of course would need to run well off of co2. Just run steal braided hose in a circle from the asa to the valve. It would not need a level 10 of course. Its a great idea!

[teufelhunden]

The thing with DYE is correct, because they spend mucho $$ on marketing and advertising.

Tippmann has a strong rental market, while it doesn't sound glamourous, it does get thier markers in the hands of the new player, and what does the new player usually go buy as thier first gun? The same thing that they used as a rental, proving that the thing wasn't a PITA when they played. Now I have had discussions with a few people about this and the consesus is that if Tom put mags with returned classic valves out there for the rental market, then more new players would not only play one of the best days of paintball, they would also buy a mag for thier first marker. Not only would it generate sales for AGD but it would also bring more people into the fold of AGD owners, and not just people who don't have one and are posing as AGD users :P

Problem with that is the new kids would need to get an air system right off the bat.. while not necessarily a bad thing, but a bit expensive for a new kid who sees an HPA tank that will get him 500 shots for 70 or a co2 tank that will get him 1300 shots for 20. On top of that, newbs __will__ short stroke. Every time I see someone pick up my bud's single Dye framed L7, they short stroke it, chop, and hand it back...

[C_22]

Best value gun under $1000: DYE DM3. Tis the gun I own and it runs beautifully. Maintenance is near 0, and I can achieve high rates of fire without having an illegal trigger.

I agree 100%, dude get a Trix.

[sitting_duck]

I agree 100%, dude get a Trix.

i would agree that it is a great bang for your buck (one of the reasons i own one) but i wouldn't say it was the absolute best value. that nomination would go to the AKA viking. for $925 you can get an 04 viking with eyes/covers, pandora board, dye stickies, and a lifetime warrenty. however, this will only be true for the short time until AKA is finished assembling its final production run. another great marker that just barely makes the sub $1000 mark is the cyborg. fast, light, efficient, and very easy to maintain. but the matrix is a great marker as well, it just needs a little help in the efficiency department.

[RRfireblade]

Getting to my point... I think there is a hole in the market. There's a lot of $300 cheapies, then the 900-$1400 ones. But I don't know of any ~$500 markers that really give you no reason to go out and buy a more expensive one, unless you got money to burn or really want that new fancy milling. Has anyone noticed this, or am I just overlooking something? There ought to be that ~$500 gem of a marker.

Thoughts?

I find it quite funny how many people are suggesting $900+ markers when that was the exact opposite of the point that Miscue was making,that there is a hole in the $300-$900 range,as in, there 'should' be a marker in the ~$500 range that equals the performance of a $900+ marker.

But go ahead and keep naming $900+ markers to help him make his point.

[xXHavokXx]

If you've shot something like a DM4 you will know why the price tag is on that marker.. Why should DYE lower the price when people are willing to pay that?

I know damn well I would pay what DYE is asking for a DM4... There is no other marker like it..

Damn straight. Ive known guys to sell nexus cockers for a grand just to get money for a DM4 quickly. They simply are amazing

[jesseyo13]

roquefactor- They cant keep the ULE custom Pro in stock because they dont understand that you need to have more than 10 parts in stock.

[ilikePB]

roquefactor- They cant keep the ULE custom Pro in stock because they dont understand that you need to have more than 10 parts in stock.

:rofl: