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  • Muzikman
    Everything AGD
    • Dec 2000
    • 6229

    #1

    No offense Josh, but...

    Heavily "Armed:" I had a great time at the Clemson, South Carolina Automags.org day. With people like the legendary Tom Kaye, "Manike" and Clare Benavides in attendance along with "Doobie," Trina, CFOA Promoter and President Larry Motes and myself, the day was sure to be a blast. We played a little tournament and then a few games of "attack and defend" that were more reminiscent of the first twenty minutes of "Saving Private Ryan" than anything paintball-related, at least when Larry, Tom, Manike and I were at the top of the hill. While taking pictures and reffing a little bit during the tournament, I snapped a series of shots of a guy coming down the tapeline in front of me and saw the ball break on his arm through the viewfinder, at which time I promptly called him out, told him to stop shooting and signalled his elimination. He proceeded to argue with me, demanding to know where he was hit. The picture didn't lie, and neither did that other hit he took to the knee coming down the field. I saw as much blatant cheating, wiping and playing on at this AO day as I did at the last tournament I attended, but hey, it was better than a sharp stick in the eye.




    No offense Josh, but man are you harsh. I was not there when he got hit, but to put this little blurb on your site sure was a blow to AO Days and the person in question (who I know to be a standup guy).
  • Gideon1331
    Im back for now...
    • Sep 2003
    • 3255

    #2
    agreed now josh wheres my pb2x

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    • logamus
      Registered Abuser
      • Dec 2002
      • 2346

      #3
      hey, he saw what he saw. the picture doesnt lie either. we all make mistakes from time to time but i dont know why josh would want to just make up a story. maybe it is harsh, but maybe thats just what was needed in this case. how gentle were people on bea after this pic came out?



      ps, im not defending bea at all, just pointing out a similiarity.


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      • personman

        #4
        Thats funny, because I diddnt see any cheating at all. I guess I'm blind though

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        • BlackVCG
          Grubby Owner

          • Oct 2000
          • 4956

          #5
          Sometimes the truth hurts...

          I could care less who the person is in the picture and if Silverman is being truthful in saying that the guy argued back about being hit, then he has pretty decent reason to make such statements if he was seeing similar incidents throughout the day.

          As a general statement, people that argue about being hit with the ref need to shut up and get the F off the field. Just one of those things that really irritates me about paintball players that think they can see more than the refs.
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          • Blazestorm
            I win
            • Feb 2002
            • 3523

            #6
            omfg black is the right.

            I've actually never had a ref yell at me to get out, a ref rather checks me and calls me out, I walk out and get bonus-balled a few times, or I get shot, I check myself and walk-out.

            It's paintball guys, there will always be more games to play, If you get shot, you're out. There shouldn't be a grey area "Oh I shot him first" both people should leave, if you want to pull a sloppy bunker move and try to stay alive, you deserve to be out, you rather do it right, or not at all... if you want to stay in the game that is...

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            • hitech
              Not a shedder of vortices
              • Nov 2001
              • 4775

              #7
              I'm very surprised by Josh's comments. I talked with him extensively at that event and he never mentioned anything even remotely like that. However, if that's what he saw, that's what he saw. Josh impressed me as being a very stand-up person. I'm even more surprised as I had the opposite experience. When I made the last ditch desperate dash UP the hill I didn't get overly lit up. Most of the opposing players (there were a lot more than I thought) stopped shooting to inform me that I was hit. And then congratulate me on a nice attempt.



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              • Head knight of Ni
                Silly K-niggits
                • Mar 2004
                • 1032

                #8
                What the player is obviously hit and there is photographic evidence. For the one on the knee I not sure if it is a hit but he did get hit and he's eliminated if he argues then he is not respecting the ref. Anything beyond walking off should be brought up after the game especially since it was a friendly game. Josh has evidence to support his call, if the player in question would speak about this instance we could come to a solid conclusion.
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                • tony3
                  LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 3740

                  #9
                  Is that 1stdeadeye? Looks like his pic at the top of the forum.

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                  • LittlePaintballBoy

                    #10
                    I think that is hitech actually, btu it does also REALLY look like 1de.. I don't know just my guesstimation

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                    • hitech
                      Not a shedder of vortices
                      • Nov 2001
                      • 4775

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LittlePaintballBoy
                      I think that is hitech actually...
                      Hey now, watch it! I'll get you for that.


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                      • Head knight of Ni
                        Silly K-niggits
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 1032

                        #12
                        yes I believe that is Deadeye.
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                        • shartley
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                          • Mar 2001
                          • 9169

                          #13

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #14
                            Let me defend whoever it is by noting that hit is VERY fresh - as in see the shell still falling in the air, he may not have reacted to getting off the trigger when that shot was taken - the one on the knee MIGHT have been from a slide in. Please not I am not defending playing on, but sometimes we get too excited about things.

                            I have asked refs in the past "where" when they told me I was hit, and it is not in an attempt to argue, its in an attempt to know where - perhaps out of curiousity, surprise, whatever. Some may call that arguing... maybe it is its not intended as such.

                            That said, I am sorry the author of the post saw any misconduct at the event, such as wiping, playing on, etc. However, the above picture, is not necessarily of a player intentionally cheating. Im sure we have all played on at one point or another, at least for split seconds.
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                            • LittlePaintballBoy

                              #15
                              Originally posted by hitech
                              Hey now, watch it! I'll get you for that.
                              Heh heh, are you gonna make it out to VT on the 28th?

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