Question on patents..

[Digits]

If I were to make a new marker based on the timmy design, where it was almost the same as a timmy internally, but the body was different would I be infringing on patents?

BTW, I'm in Canada.

[eNder159]

if its the same internals...and a different body..well...you just made the 09238402938409283409283049820394029340928340 timmy out there just with a different body

[Fixion]

If I were to make a new marker based on the timmy design, where it was almost the same as a timmy internally, but the body was different would I be infringing on patents?

BTW, I'm in Canada.

If you were to produce it and sell it, maybe, I don't know of the specific patents on the timmy. If it infringes on the SPECIFIC pattents (and you mass produce it and sell it commercially), then yes, that would be patent infringment. But if you just make one or two for personal use, that probably wouldn't be a problem.

For example. The autococker itself (the mechanical device), isn't pattented, but the name is. So you can go and make as many cockers however you want and sell them, you just can't call it an "autococker".

[Digits]

Alright thanks bro..

And i'll be mass producing them.. Probablly about 1000 for the first run..

I was thinking of stealing the nerve, and shocker from smart parts, getting a 1000 of each made, and selling them at 100-200 less with break beam eyes instead of crappy *** reflective...

I'm in Canada to, so SP shouldn't be able to touch me with their electro patent, and I doubt they paid the big $$'s for a worldwide patent on the nerver or shocker, so we'll see.. lol.

[RRfireblade]

I hope your planning on selling them all in canada then

[Deep Sixx]

You want to borrow from an existing design, add features and sell it for less money? The body will be your own design? Have you looked into CNC machining costs? I'm guessing no, and I think you're in for a nasty surprise.

sixx

[Creative Mayhem]

I'm in Canada to, so SP shouldn't be able to touch me with their electro patent, and I doubt they paid the big $$'s for a worldwide patent on the nerver or shocker, so we'll see.. lol.

Hate to burst a fellow Canuck's bubble, but the patent SP has is a north american patent,(which covers canada) and more than likely a worldwide patent(due to WDP)

So basically, if you were to reproduce the shocker/nerve you would get your gonads nailed to the wall faster than you can sneeze.

[Glickman]

smart parts is based out of canada, i dunno if the own a patent there too

[can'tthink of1]

Well as far as patents go for timmy-like markers... there is the nemisis (spelling?) and the custom body from ummm, Aim I believe. Now if BL or someone had a patent on the timmy these markers wouldn't be seen.

I think as long as SP doesn't make a huff about it you're safe.

[Deep Sixx]

smart parts is based out of canada

No, they're not.

sixx

[G3PB]

IF a marker patent were for the US only.....then it would still be against import policy to allow you to sell in the US, since it would violate said patent....

[Lohman446]

Alright thanks bro..

And i'll be mass producing them.. Probablly about 1000 for the first run..

I was thinking of stealing the nerve, and shocker from smart parts, getting a 1000 of each made, and selling them at 100-200 less with break beam eyes instead of crappy *** reflective...

I'm in Canada to, so SP shouldn't be able to touch me with their electro patent, and I doubt they paid the big $$'s for a worldwide patent on the nerver or shocker, so we'll see.. lol.

This was so good... gods.. I cant stop. You know SP never sues anyone anywhere right I mean WDP was based across the pond

[Disasster]

You want to borrow from an existing design, add features and sell it for less money? The body will be your own design? Have you looked into CNC machining costs? I'm guessing no, and I think you're in for a nasty surprise.

sixx

I'm Digits bro...and yes we do know how much it costs to get it milled. We are getting it done at a place where you have to get like 500+ of them made for them to start making them for you. We dont know if they can forsure do it untill 1-2 weeks and then they'll tell how much each one is and how many we have to make. It should'nt cost that much considering to get a dirt bike made its only 700 and there like 2000+ new

[Digits]

You want to borrow from an existing design, add features and sell it for less money? The body will be your own design? Have you looked into CNC machining costs? I'm guessing no, and I think you're in for a nasty surprise.

sixx

No, i'm not in for a nasty suprise.. Basically we would be getting these markers made in a factory in China that makes things like dirtbikes, quads for honda, showers, generators ect, all at a reduced cost.

[RRfireblade]

I'm Digits bro...and yes we do know how much it costs to get it milled. We are getting it done at a place where you have to get like 500+ of them made for them to start making them for you. We dont know if they can forsure do it untill 1-2 weeks and then they'll tell how much each one is and how many we have to make. It should'nt cost that much considering to get a dirt bike made its only 700 and there like 2000+ new

Just a thought but in the quantitiy your talking about, you could very likely just have SP build you a custom version. That sure would save you alot of a hassle and possibly even save you some cash.Not to mention the fact that's it's pretty much a given that people will spend MORE for a custom version so you end up doing even better and with a whole lot less work.Not to mention trying to skirt the impending legal action, warranty issues and all the other related costs and liabilities that typically keeps every one else in the business from doing what you guys are planning.