Question on patents..

[Disasster]

Just a thought but in the quantitiy your talking about, you could very likely just have SP build you a custom version. That sure would save you alot of a hassle and possibly even save you some cash.Not to mention the fact that's it's pretty much a given that people will spend MORE for a custom version so you end up doing even better and with a whole lot less work.Not to mention trying to skirt the impending legal action, warranty issues and all the other related costs and liabilities that typically keeps every one else in the business from doing what you guys are planning.

ya.....but knowing SP they would charge like 700+ a gun, also i really really hate SP.

[Digits]

Just a thought but in the quantitiy your talking about, you could very likely just have SP build you a custom version. That sure would save you alot of a hassle and possibly even save you some cash.Not to mention the fact that's it's pretty much a given that people will spend MORE for a custom version so you end up doing even better and with a whole lot less work.Not to mention trying to skirt the impending legal action, warranty issues and all the other related costs and liabilities that typically keeps every one else in the business from doing what you guys are planning.

lol ya.. I really want timmies.. I just sort of hate smart parts so I would like to copy their gun, and sell it for like 300 less.. But if i'm guerenteed to be in court, I would rather not.. Does anyone know what bob long has patents on for his guns? (like bolt design, reg design, clammy's, anything specific that we would want to avoid replicating?)

[wispaintstyle]

Maybe I'll jump the border for one.

[Digits]

Maybe I'll jump the border for one.

lol if we got the price we were looking for .. The guns would be reaaly cheap compared to other timmies, even 2k2's

[Digits]

Now for an even tougher question.. How does one go about getting ahold of manike?

[Creative Mayhem]

I could get a hold of him, but I know him and he WILL NOT go ANYWHERE near this.

[Disasster]

all we would do is pay him to make us the design and then the rest is on us, he would not have done anyhting wrong if we did get sued or whatever.

[Lohman446]

all we would do is pay him to make us the design and then the rest is on us, he would not have done anyhting wrong if we did get sued or whatever.

All we want him to do is knowingly design something in violation of numerous court upheld patents... no big deal

[Digits]

I really don't feel like arguing, but believe me, we will make sure we don't violate any patents associated with the timmy (ie. Specific bolt design).. The only patent we might have to violate would be the SP one, which we will talk to lawyers for ways around.

[teufelhunden]

Manike WORKS for NPS.. why would he design something for a ripoff competitor?

Oh, by the way, your idea will never work.

[frop]

I think it's cool that you're trying to go through with this. On the topic of Manike, what would be illegal about designing a custom body?

All we want him to do is knowingly design something in violation of numerous court upheld patents... no big deal

[Disasster]

Manike WORKS for NPS.. why would he design something for a ripoff competitor?

Oh, by the way, your idea will never work.

Teufelhunden - explain how this would be a ripoff?

Frop - Thanks for the support, glad to see some people would like to spend less money on timmy that works just as good as a ND, Dark ect.

[RRfireblade]

It would be quite a conflict of interest for Manike to build a part for something that infringes on the Patent holdings of the company the signs his pay check. Just a guess though.

As for getting around SP Patents, That's cute. :) But who knows,I supposed it's possible that the multitude of Patent attorneys under retainer by basically the entire industry of paintball and who have been trying to get around SP, at basically any cost, for the last 3-5 years has missed something

Let us know how that works out for ya.

Or better yet.........


Instead of trying to emulate the low life,scum sucking,bottom feeder, rip off artist of the world, why not try and develop an original idea?


Just a thought.

[RRfireblade]

Just wanted to add that I hope that didn't sound mean or something, I didn't mean for it to be directly at you guys.

I do give you credit for wanting to do 'something' on your own.


Lastly, if your just wanting a different bodied/edition timmy you can also just commision a Timmy version in a similar fashion as SP does.

If you think there really needs to be another style Timmy that is.

(there happen to be a few low cost Timmy rips out already as well)

[Bob_da_Splatman]

Instead of trying to emulate the low life,scum sucking,bottom feeder, rip off artist of the world, why not try and develop an original idea?

so let me get this straight ...you plan on coping a current design for internals and then pay someone for the exterior design .....exactly what part of this gun is your ideal ???
And another thing is that the fact that you have some cheap cnc co. to mill it doesnt realy give me that good quality feeling that most cnc places that are a little higher on the food chain.

..,.And everybody knows that if you what cheap work go to india and mass produce it in a sweat shop with little indian children with sand paper and chistles!!!!