AGD at a crossroad.. where do you want it to go?

[NewMagMan21]

I also think get back into the tourney circuit, but not the pros. What I would do is give permision to all of the six million all mag teams to put AGD on thier jerseys.

Why not Pros??? If anything they have almost the most influence on the tournement population. But thats a great Idea and it would be hella cheap

[drewrw]

It would be nice if this new "owner" would even post, wouldnt it? I see all these great suggestions and whose to say this dude is even reading them. It kinda pisses me off!!

[Southparkrocks]

How about some advertising? How many times have you seen an automag ad in a magazine? Just put a pic of a karta mag, or daralla mag on the back on a mag.

[Muzikman]

It would be nice if this new "owner" would even post, wouldnt it? I see all these great suggestions and whose to say this dude is even reading them. It kinda pisses me off!!

Don't you think that he has more pressing issues dealing with banks and getting settled in as the owner of AGD. I don't think reading and posting on AO is high on his list just yet. And if you read the welcome thread, you will see that Zupe replied atleast 3 times.

[spasticsquirrel]

Make paintballs with ice cream flavors so when you get hit in the mouth, it tastes good.

oh yeah, no white fill.

[Lohman446]

I want to see a single tube marker with teh profile of a mag, ACE, insanely quick rates of fire, maybe even a cheater board.

Oh wait, I have one, its my Shocker

[bryceeden]

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Why not Pros??? If anything they have almost the most influence on the tournement population. But thats a great Idea and it would be hella cheap

Pros are too expensive to start with, $20,000 a year is alot of money where as shirts can be done for as little as $1.00 each.

[bleachit]

You want to sell a mag to the new guys (the guys who are considering a spyder or clone)?

Make the damned thing run off of CO2.

It won't shoot 26 bps then? Who cares. I know I sure don't.

CO2 and more efficient. A palmer Stabilizer reg does great things for a classic mag on CO2, but a cheaper stock alternative that keeps the valve from freezing in all weather, or make it run as good as a spyder or tippy in most weather without expensive extra parts would be great. The biggest reason I got rid of my classic mag was it was too expensive to upgrade it to what I wanted it to be, and it was almost useless to me without the palmer stabilizer.

what am I using as my primary marker now? the 5 year old stock tippy model 98, runs great on CO2 in all weather, is very simple to operate, and will shoot through anything.

[Trunnion]

I agree with whoever said that educating the store owner is a good course of action. I'm far from being a 'mag expert, but I'm the only person at my shop (including the owners) who knows anything about mags. I've sold 3 in the past year, which I think is a decent accomplishment for someone who works one day a week and deals primarily with 12-17 year old kids. No one else has sold any, simply because they don't know enough about them. All the store owner can really say is "yeah, they're good markers." But he can't elaborate. Include in this a demonstation marker of some sort (even if the owner has to pay for it) and I think it could make a big difference. I use my Emag and my RT w/ ULT to demonstrate to customers, and most walk away impressed. They may not buy the marker in the next week, or even the next month, but they will consider it and that's important. In that case you have a CHANCE at selling one, whereas before demonstrating the product, they had never heard of the mag. The mags at my field also have a pretty good amount of respect, even from players with '03 Shockers, Timmys, Angels, etc. They may never own one, but they don't trash talk them. I think this also stems from demonstrations, as I've rather proudly shown many of them that my Emag is just as formidable as their markers. This helps combat the "mag's are blenders" stigma so well that it no longer makes an appearance at my field. A little explanation, and most players realize they don't chop any more often than any other marker without an antichop system.

[spasticsquirrel]

they could always do that tippmann underwater thing, i forgot whats it called, but it uses liquid c02 to shoot. It works because the liquid *pops* into gas as the pressure goes down. I read it somewhere on docs machine website.

[Muzikman]

Some guns can run off liquid CO2, a mag is not one of them. The orings do not like it at all.

[deadbox101]

the best idea in here is too make a poorman's mag. It would boost AGD sales incredibly, so ill just take all the ideas and list them for what Joe Noobie likes.

get rid of the x valve Joe Noobie doesnt need to shoot 26 bps and doesnt want to buy HPA
Keep the ULE bodies and advertise as superlight
keep the lvl 10 Joe Noobie doesnt need a blender
add your choice of a regular .45 or y grip and advertise as Egronomically correct
add a gas through foregrip with bottom line and asa installed and make the air go through the rail
losen up on tolerances, like its been stated that dont need to be perfect on a poorman's mag

sell the package for lower then 300 with your choice of colors. Then AGD has money to innovate and create upgrades for the anyone who joins the mag world.

[robb2269]

WGP is doing the same thing now with a entry level gun that AGD should do get the bignner market. Get extra cash for and the name out there again. Bring the X-MAG back a differant battery choice. Host more tournaments like Shatner bowl all over the states. Then a couple of teams with E-MAG's then H-Air MAGS. The design's that came in a couple a month's ago were great there are alot of great idea's here too. The MAG is not dead lots of ways to go.

[maglover728]

[robb2269]

I agree with maglover798. You need more jersey's, stickers, gloves, mask's, pants and plaster your name on it. I wear alot of Dye gear because its good but I would be proud to wear from the company I use.