Volume or accuracy ?

[NIghtStalker001]

Every thread and Forum always talks about how fast can your gun shoot ...whats the bps does anybody focus on accuracy anymore?you know making the shot count.I have a old minimag that at tops i've shot 5-9 balls per second and I have taken out so many people with that thing.I'm not trying to brag but people will spend $50 or more on a upgrade that will allow an extra 1-2 balls a second I just dont see the point in that.
Can anybody please explain this to me? Or are there any ballers still out there that are like me?

[RogueFactoryKid]

more balls means better chance to hit. If the speed of the gun didnt matter dynasty and company wouldnt shoot the 20 bps guns. So for all the people that say you dont need to shoot fast to win, go watch any national paintball event and tell me how many teams didnt shoot at least 12 bps....

[Maclete]

Yea, these kids are way too hopped up on how fast that they can shoot. I'm always telling them all it takes is one

[trains are bad]

Accuracy is good. Volume is good. Both is even better.

[NIghtStalker001]

I can understand to hold someone down,But Ive one a small three man tournament with everyother team using fancy guns and 5 a second will also hold someone in believe me.We won the tournament and everyone that gave me dirty looks before entering using a mag came up afterwards and gave me props.

[yakitori]

It is a common misconception that shooting a large volumes of paint means that you are not placing the balls in a good spot. Most ppl in pro tourneys Im sure are using good accuracy combined w/ high volumes of paint. To me it isnt either/or, it is both. Placing a lot of balls in a good spot is necessary when everyone else is using large volumes of paint.

[NIghtStalker001]

I own two markers 1 is a eclipse impulse with vision that can shoot 20 a second,I get more kills on my mag because I focus the shoot more.It trips me out does this happen to anyone else?

[yakitori]

Yea, these kids are way too hopped up on how fast that they can shoot. I'm always telling them all it takes is one

what if that one bounces? what if there are 3 more right behind it and they all break.

[NIghtStalker001]

It is a common misconception that shooting a large volumes of paint means that you are not placing the balls in a good spot. Most ppl in pro tourneys Im sure are using good accuracy combined w/ high volumes of paint. To me it isnt either/or, it is both. Placing a lot of balls in a good spot is necessary when everyone else is using large volumes of paint.

Now for Pros I can understand they know how to shoot fast and accurate but if they have a shot and take it and the aim is there does 5 a second compaed to 15 matter if he has a shot he has a shot.my thing is you only need to shot really fast to hold someone down,but if you make a good move and have a angle is 20 nessasary it probably only takes 4 quick pulls to take the guy out so whats the point of 20 a second?

[Vanced]

To quote Dale Hilton the owner of the former BOA Barrels..

"Accuracy By Volume"


Not to mention it sounds cool to shoot fast, and it does help keep peoples heads down ?

That is if cost of paint isn't a big factor to you... again it is an old debate... with no clear cut winner...

EDIT: I enjoy playing both ends of the spectrum, I enjoy playing with my pump or old minimag against the latest E-Guns as well... I just don't want to be on either side of this debate... both schools of thought are mostly right... and I have been playing long enough that like as much varity in my paintball as possible...

[68magOwner]

ok, for some reason, people shooting slower bps assume they are shooting more accurately. I can assure you, that you pulling 5-9bps on your mag causes it to jump around alot more than if i were shooting in the high teens on my viking, so, are my shots more accurate? no, because that term dosent really make any sense in paintball, but, my shots are more precise (meaning a tighter shot grouping). Also, high ROF has more applications than just shooting people, when someone is shooting really fast, they are normally laning, or keeping someone in, if they actually have an easy shot on somone, chances are than there not gonna rip of 50 shots their way.

now, the price of upgrades that may slightly increase ROF, i too think is out of hand (like $80 for a freaking trigger, ect), but, as long as people will pay that much, company's will charge that much.

also, you have a higher chance of eliminating someone at a high ROF because of having balls behind bounce shots ect.

[Lohman446]

Accuracy is good. Volume is good. Both is even better.

I am so stealing that saying

[Dayspring]

You've probably only played in local tournaments. In the bigger ones, one ball means it's only one hit they have to wipe off.

And there is a LARGE difference between a 5bps holding someone in and 14+. I'm more apt to come out on a 5bps than I am a 14. There's more of a window.

Plus, go bunker somebody with one shot. They'll spin and shoot you and while you're arguing, he's wiping.

Tom's said it best. Accuracy by volume.

Now for Pros I can understand they know how to shoot fast and accurate but if they have a shot and take it and the aim is there does 5 a second compaed to 15 matter if he has a shot he has a shot.my thing is you only need to shot really fast to hold someone down,but if you make a good move and have a angle is 20 nessasary it probably only takes 4 quick pulls to take the guy out so whats the point of 20 a second?

[JKR]

Every thread and Forum always talks about how fast can your gun shoot ...whats the bps does anybody focus on accuracy anymore?you know making the shot count.I have a old minimag that at tops i've shot 5-9 balls per second and I have taken out so many people with that thing.I'm not trying to brag but people will spend $50 or more on a upgrade that will allow an extra 1-2 balls a second I just dont see the point in that.
Can anybody please explain this to me? Or are there any ballers still out there that are like me?

People quit worrying about accuracy and making shots count when speedball became the most prevalent form of tournament and recreational pball. Stealth, accuracy, shooting technique, and concealment seem to be words of the past. If you are lucky enough to find a group of guys and gals to play with/against that haven't been caught up in the arms race and don't care about hyper-fast electros, consider yourself lucky.

I am the only pumper in a group of recreational, renegade players and I hold my own. An Armson Pro-Dot tops my Sniper II and regularly helps me accurately place paint on the other guys. Accuracy can be a part of paintball, despite what others may say. Any old-schoolers like myself who may have or still do individually roll balls and sort out the wobblers can attest to that!

Oh, and in my group we have no refs and call ourselves out after one hit--another rare things these days.

Justin

[mag88888]

i like how daypsring explained it. many times the same situation that he said has happened to me. i have shot someone 1 or 2 times, were arguing and he wipes, so the ref sais hes still in. many times at my local field i shot someone 1, they wiped, i shot 2 , they wiped, after that i unloaded. everytime it was necessary. wiping is a real problem in the game. if people woudnt cheat it would be so much better.