Volume or accuracy ?

[LeatherPants]

It's true. "It takes only one." But I have more "ones" in the air than you.

I play back. I shoot alot of paint. But there is a purpose to my "dumping" paint. I'm not randomly shooting. I have to move my front and stop the other front from moving. I shoot alot when I also am on the move. I tuck people in. I close lanes. That's my job.

If someone is dumping paint you can tell. It's easy to come out on someone even if they are throwing 20bps. It's knowing how to throw paint and where.

True anyone can buy a highend marker and shoot tons of paint but it is those with skill that use it as part of their game.

[Lohman446]

I played a tournament two weeks ago - I was playing on one team and some people I know playing on another. It was a three man and they took up an entire team, I played pickup on another team. Between the four of us, in (if I recall) 12 games for me and 15 for them we shot just over a single case of paint. They lost two games all day...

The point is, well paint in the air undoubtedly helps - it is over depended on by many players. My team had a hard time competing against hte team of my friends.. because they hit there bunkers and posted.. it was hard to tell where they were, and if you peeked they could often snap you. Keep in mind they are some of the best players I know.

You can use all that paint in teh air to your advantage... I listen to see where people are shooting from, watch lanes to figure where they are... and there stream of paint often enough allows me to snap them from a different angle.

Paint in the air helps, it has a place, but it is getting overused and overdepended on to do things it simply cannot do well. Yes, a great skill, but only one of many skills needed

[trains are bad]

One reason this guy is only shooting another 25 balls the rest of the game is because he's gotten into a position where they are keeping him in with a sustained ROF.

so true. In 3man I may not even carry pods, and may play several games on 200 paintballs. Because my teammates are keeping the lock down with well placed firepower.

[NewMagMan21]

If you change where your head peeks out, instead of coming out at the same place every time, there's a whole lot better of a chance on 5bps. On 14, there's more of a chance that there may be a ball waiting there.

And you'd be surprised how quickly someone can move their head.

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This is why I said about the person knowing where to shoot. I play pump ball and I know that I can place balls in certain spots that people will come out at. Personally I get more gogged players with my maverick by doing this than I do wih my mag/ Bushmaster.
What Im saying is, is that if Im shooting 5 bps and just do a 5 shot string down the bunker, that works for me and if you pop out then your gone. But if people have to through shoot about 15 shots, hit the bunker, go to far out, and then some in the correct area then I just think thats a waste.
Anyway what Im saying is, is that the people you play with must shoot the wrong spots too often for you to think that you can come out at even 5 bps. You may play in tourneys but when I watch/ play with people other than my team/friends I see a lot of just bunker pounding and not shots that will get any out they just give the bunker or air some bruises
Because If I ever come out when someone I play with shoots at me I will get tagged and I have pretty quick reflexes but not that fast.
Whatever you say but I dont care, you do what works for you and I'll do what works for me. But cant we just get along and bunker some mag bashers

[Tyger]

Wait, are we talking REC or TOURNAMENT ball?

The answer is different depending on that.

-Tyger

[xXHavokXx]

My 3 machine guns are also sniper rifles.

If need be I can one shot, or i can mow.

Usually I choose to mow, why?

1.Paint Can bounce.
2.Wind
3. What if I miss
4. Women dig it.

[LeatherPants]

Lots of you guys keep talking about the Tournies you play and that most of them are 3 man. Well there you go. 3 man is nowhere near the same as a 5 or 7 man.

In a good 5 or 7 man game i'll blow through 7-11 pods. In a 3 man somtimes I just use a hopper.

You cannot compare a 3 man to a larger game. It's not the same type of play.

[Z-man]

I honestly just like shooting fast. I aggree 100% that accuracy + volume in the tournament ball world is the best combo, but I really am quite happy just dropping all my pods in 1 game for the sheer fun of it. One more reason I dont play too often it's expensive for me.

[shatter_storm]

I find it to be much more rewarding when I can get people out with single shots. Part of it requires manuvering behind them, part's not being where they expect you to be, part of it is a little bit of luck.
But ninja eliminations are definatly the most satisfying. Anybody can hose down an area with a hopperfull of paint and win out over the odds. There arn't that many people that can place a single ball on target fast enough to make it count.



But yes, I'll admit to borrowing a friend's electro every once in a while and shooting through a half case of paint in one game. Accuracy by volume indeed.

[ProX9]

volume or accuracy? I'll take excal

[NewMagMan21]

Wait, are we talking REC or TOURNAMENT ball?

The answer is different depending on that.

-Tyger

Umm Im talking about rec and 3-5 man tourneys. In games larger then that I think it would be necessary to shoot quite a bit, especially off the break the more out off the start the better.

[Gr0dy]

(saying that the paintball is in the correct spots, meaning this person knows where to shoot) There is no way that you are going to pop in and in that amout of time. .2 seconds is about enough time to come out. You could pop out but it would be a stupid way to get out in the middle of a game. And thats saying you come out with the back of your head being slightly touched by the paintball and you'd still only have .18 seconds left.

its common sense man, hes sayin its easier to come out on 5 bps then 14 because 14 theres 9 more balls in the air then 5, use your common sense...

[NewMagMan21]

Umm Im not saying that its any harder to come out. What Im saying it is if your playing againts a good/ accurately shooting player who knows what hes doing you would be dumb to come out on 5 bps. Use your common sense . Now if there are more balls in the air it makes you even stupid for coming out and getting shot when you could wait 2 more seconds and pop out a lot safer. Now if my common sense of not getting shot for no apparent reason is dumb then I guess I suck. Use your common sense!

[White_Noise]

i play both 3-man and 5 man tourneys with 2 different teams. between these 2 teams, i play all positions. from front to mid to back, there isnt much difference in how much paint i shoot per game usually. in 3 man, ill shoot from 50 to maybe 350 balls. in 5-man, from 50 to 400 balls. granted in general ill shoot more the further back i am, but ive been in games when im sitting at the 50 and drop 2 pods snapping through people's lanes of paint.

my basic idea is that both accuracy and volume are neccessary. personally, im horrible at putting out lanes of paint for long periods of time, and therefore dont like playing back, and if i do play back, i prefer to move up immediately. however, when snap shooting, which is most of the shots i get, its important to be very accurate, however, if i can get 3-5 balls off in the time someone else gets off 1-2, im in a much better position to hit them.

for those that shoot high volumes of paint during games, as long as they know what theyre doing with and arent just shooting a bunker for fun, then its ok. if theyre shooting loads of paint, they had better be either setting up moves for others, or setting up moves for themselves and not just repeatedly shooting a bunker while no one on the team is moving.

[Thunder Bunny]

I own two markers 1 is a eclipse impulse with vision that can shoot 20 a second,I get more kills on my mag because I focus the shoot more. It trips me out does this happen to anyone else?

I know pump players that have excellent accuarcy. I'm not trying to stir up the pump vs semi debate, but when you don't have the volume you must have the accuarcy.