Electronic marker idea for AGD

[steveg]

OH DEAR would someone please remind me why my Hyperframe that I've
had, and used without fault or flaw, for the last 4 years is such a terrible product again?

[jekyll]

That's why everyone and their mom shoots a cocker. cuz WGP says, "closed bolts are more accurate".................. Everyone fell for that bullcrap and bought 'cockers.

I can't say I know a single autococker owner that thinks their gun is more accurate than anyone elses because it is closed bolt. Most of them that I know, myself included, bought cockers because they like to tinker.

[Miscue]

it's all about advertising, that is why. AGD never does any huge marketing campaigns... They barely attented any major tournaments.



That's why everyone and their mom shoots a cocker. cuz WGP says, "closed bolts are more accurate".................. Everyone fell for that bullcrap and bought 'cockers.

That's my whole point! Ride on those coattails!

[Miscue]

OH DEAR would someone please remind me why my Hyperframe that I've
had, and used without fault or flaw, for the last 4 years is such a terrible product again?

Nobody said it was. It's a good product - I used to own one as well.

[zackzel]

I think this is an awsome idea and could revive the mags to the paintball world again. Dont' get me wrong I think it would be better if AGD could make their own E-frame but I don't see that happening anytime soon so this may be the way to go.

[Miscue]

I think this is an awsome idea and could revive the mags to the paintball world again. Dont' get me wrong I think it would be better if AGD could make their own E-frame but I don't see that happening anytime soon so this may be the way to go.

I agree, I would much rather see AGD come up with their own. But I think that's cost prohibitive - and it doesn't solve the legal stuff. And, I think it would be a good idea to give other companies a reason to sell their own version of AGD stuff. KAPP Cocker, DYE Cocker, Dark Cocker... etc. If you can do something like this -> you do not need a marketing department. All you have to do is supply parts and let them handle the rest.

I think of it this way: There's nothing that says you gotta get Ford/Chevy/Toyota/etc. to make their own turbochargers for their cars. Let the aftermarket guys do it -> they can spend more time working on that one part, and make it better than you could. And, you still make money off the initial sale - you're not losing because someone else sells parts for it.

[Glickman]

I can't say I know a single autococker owner that thinks their gun is more accurate than anyone elses because it is closed bolt. Most of them that I know, myself included, bought cockers because they like to tinker.

second that



sounds like a great idea to me, thats on of the reasons i havent invested in a mag yet..
electronic frame (atleast none i think are decent)

how much are e1 blades? 200 now? id take that to be able to shoot like an x-mag

[PBX Ronin 23]

BTW, does anyone know why CenterFlag stopped making the HyperFrames?

[Miscue]

BTW, does anyone know why CenterFlag stopped making the HyperFrames?

If I were to guess... because it wasn't profittable. But, don't know for sure.

[PBX Ronin 23]

If that was the case, then why would others follow in their footsteps?

[teufelhunden]

Because the Hyperframe was a $50 Spyder frame that cost $400, for starters.

[Boski51]

These are the kind of posts that I hope ADG reads. We are the market, the profit, the salesmen, the players. The underlying point of this thread and website is that we all love our mags but want "something more". If ADG is smart-and I think they are, they will meet that need. If they don't, they will go out of business and others will take over filling the needs of the consumer.

It is really that simple. The secret of any business success is finding a need and meeting it at the highest possible profit point that the consumers will pay.

My 2 cents.

[msprince]

it's all about advertising, that is why. AGD never does any huge marketing campaigns... They barely attented any major tournaments.



That's why everyone and their mom shoots a cocker. cuz WGP says, "closed bolts are more accurate".................. Everyone fell for that bullcrap and bought 'cockers.

The only bullcrap I hear is what is coming out of your mouth.
people buy cockers because they are a great gun, also for the same reason people buy a mag, because its a good product.

[Miscue]

The only bullcrap I hear is what is coming out of your mouth.
people buy cockers because they are a great gun, also for the same reason people buy a mag, because its a good product.

Warning: Don't Flame.

Jewie: Don't respond or I'll ban you too.

[jon-boy]

Regarding that picture above with the ebladed "mag"... if you check out that thread, the only thing mag about that marker is the body (and rail?). Tom himself got on that thread and asked why it could be called a mag. It doesn't even use a mag valve.
Just clarifying.

My $.02- I'd definitely buy an e-frame that was more affordable/reliable. I know the hyperframe works, but it's a little pricey for me. $150 would be a little more in my price range.