Electronic marker idea for AGD

[Miscue]

Regarding that picture above with the ebladed "mag"... if you check out that thread, the only thing mag about that marker is the body. Tom himself got on that thread and asked why it could be called a mag. It doesn't even use a mag valve.
Just clarifying.

My $.02- I'd definitely buy an e-frame that was more affordable/reliable. I know the hyperframe works, but it's a little pricey for me. $150 would be a little more in my price range.

Yeah, it's not a "Mag" anymore. But the frame fits on the rail - and you'd think there should be a way to rig it to the marker - while it still works as a Mag.

[jon-boy]

Isn't it just a matter of fitting the solenoid to the on/off? I don't know why they didn't stick with a mag valve.

[Evil1]

That would definitely be an awesome move if an e blade could be easily bolted on to a mag. I have never been a cocker fan, b ut they are good guns. I'm not here to flame cockers. The e blade was one of the best things that ever happened to a cocker and if you could put one on a mag it would definitely rejuvenate more interest in mags across the board.

[rkjunior303]

Yeah, it's not a "Mag" anymore. But the frame fits on the rail - and you'd think there should be a way to rig it to the marker - while it still works as a Mag.

why not, ya know? people have modded mechanical cocker frames to work -- why not the eblade

[GT]

Maybe some of you smart guys can esplain something to me. Centerflag, booyaah, etc chew up bolts like mad. however the emag doesnt have those same issues. There is something about the selnoid pushing directly on the sear that causes this issue. Honestly I think it sucks and have yet to see anyone actually design, emag aside, a eframe worth a crap for the mag. Maybe Devil's den can, but given that they are using lvl7.....

Honestly all the emag needs is a software update, :)

with all the ULE crap you can get an emag to around 2.5 lbs. So we people start whinning about the emag I assume its either an asthetics issue or thefact we dont get ramping software.

I like this eblade idea alot.

[B.A.M.]

[QUOTE=Miscue]I like the E-Blade better.

[QUOTE]
I just shot one of those on my friends gun and it is awsome.

[PBX Ronin 23]

Of course its not a MAG valve. It's an mQ-Valve. We are going to be platforming this thing on Mag Spec bodies so that Mag users have another available mod at their disposal.

Can a better and cheaper frame similar to the HyperFrame be made? Of course. We've already looked at this a long time ago. But the prevailing problem is if you're going to make it and sell it legitemately, you'd have to get a license from either SP or now, WDP.

Is there enough of a market demand for it to justify the cost of legally making these frames? This is the biggest question of all on this thread.

But what if someone who already has an existing license decides to undertake the development of an E-frame that uses the Mag valve. What they would look at is the economic viability of doing so. The answer to this question is perhaps something that none of us on this thread care to hear.

BTW, it's not as simple as strapping on a 'noid onto the on/off. It, at the very least, is a bit more complex than that.

[Miscue]

Maybe some of you smart guys can esplain something to me. Centerflag, booyaah, etc chew up bolts like mad. however the emag doesnt have those same issues. There is something about the selnoid pushing directly on the sear that causes this issue. Honestly I think it sucks and have yet to see anyone actually design, emag aside, a eframe worth a crap for the mag. Maybe Devil's den can, but given that they are using lvl7.....

Honestly all the emag needs is a software update, :)

with all the ULE crap you can get an emag to around 2.5 lbs. So we people start whinning about the emag I assume its either an asthetics issue or thefact we dont get ramping software.

I like this eblade idea alot.

I agree about the software update. However, an E-Blade allows those guys concentrate on the software updates if any. And, the last E-Blade I used had a nice subtle ramp to it that I think is perfect to begin with.

What an E-Blade additionally solves is: AGD doesn't officially make an electronic marker. It takes the battery off - looks better, removes weight. AGD doesn't have to develop a new marker and just has to figure out how to slap that frame on to existing products. I don't think it's an extra step for people selling E-Bladed markers... to sell AGD E-Bladed markers... getting other people to sell their own variants.

AGD has a new viable marker. Not much R&D. Other companies can worry about marketing.

[Miscue]

But what if someone who already has an existing license decides to undertake the development of an E-frame that uses the Mag valve. What they would look at is the economic viability of doing so. The answer to this question is perhaps something that none of us on this thread care to hear.

BTW, it's not as simple as strapping on a 'noid onto the on/off. It, at the very least, is a bit more complex than that.

Bingo.

[GT]

AGD has a new viable marker. Not much R&D. Other companies can worry about marketing.

totally agree,
someone post this in the eclipse forum on pbn and send jack wood an email, with a link here.

[bballe336]

well its very simple to put an e spyder frame on except that they are painfully slow. right now i am in the process of putting a timmy frame with spyder sear tripper and pred board on my micromag. if only it was easier

[PBX Ronin 23]

Jack and Flash and the rest of those guys at Planet probably won't touch it. If they believed in the viability of it, they would have done it a long time ago.

[Kevmaster]

q....

its a great idea. the cocker frames bolt onto the mag easily as their hole spacing is the same. yeah, you'd just need to make a custom rail that was made to accept the sear of the e-blade and have that actuate the sear of the 'mag. i dunno if thats possible...but if it is, someone should do it.

thats a fantastic idea :)

[Target Practice]

Unless something is done to eliminate the battery pack, The Emag cannot be marketed/sold in any EFFECTIVE way. By the time AGD designed a frame that ran on a nine volt, that didn't have a mech mode, and with software that people would actually want (which has already been shot down), they would have a frame IDENTICAL to the Eblade, but with bugs that would need to be worked out.


OT: You know, I'd take a valve that was consistent and heavy over a valve that was inconsistant and light. Down with the Xvalves!

[PBX Ronin 23]

The position of the sear tripper noids on cocker e-frame are not geometrically compatible with the Mag. For a Mag, the design would be similar to the HyperFrame but I believe that I can be doen better and still retain its bolt-on characteristics.