NEW Smart Parts Midlevel Low Price Marker

[Severe]

While the speed and break beam eyes wouldn't have been there, AGD could have done this a year ago!

If they would have just made a polymere double trigger frame with a metal trigger, reduced the cost of the X-valve and made it C02 compatible, and then made polymere bodies they very well could have set the standard for the sub $300 mechanical marker.

I remember having a discussion sometime back about making slide-on polymere bodies for the mag that would convert the body to a Tac body by sliding on a rail. That could have been applied to any number of variations.

I agree with anyone who says these things are going to sell like hotcakes.

[BigEvil]

While the speed and break beam eyes wouldn't have been there, AGD could have done this a year ago!

If they would have just made a polymere double trigger frame with a metal trigger, reduced the cost of the X-valve and made it C02 compatible, and then made polymere bodies they very well could have set the standard for the sub $300 mechanical marker.

I remember having a discussion sometime back about making slide-on polymere bodies for the mag that would convert the body to a Tac body by sliding on a rail. That could have been applied to any number of variations.

I agree with anyone who says these things are going to sell like hotcakes.

WORD.
This should be a wake up call for the entire PB industry. (IE: AGD)

[Quackman71]

Lower prices

This thing specs look great, 17bps, nice trigger, break beam eyes.
If it works like they promote it I would buy one. Its a good competitor for the 05 BKO.
These things will make SP lots of money.
Its just like video cards for computers, ATI vs. Nvidia, both want to have the top of the line best card so they can flaunt that they are the greatest. But its the midrange and mostly LOW END cards that make them the money. If these things shoot well and are reliable then I see SP rolling in the dough.

[SlartyBartFast]

It's a Stingray on steroids.

Based on that vacuous logic, I suppose Glocks are Stingrays on steroids too.

Name one single advantage of having extra decorative metal on the mainbody.

[WARPED1]

The haters can say what they like, but I think you will see this marker take a lot of sales away from the other midrange markers.

AND, with the new 15 bps caps that are springing up all over, that extra $900 that you'll pay for a DM5 really is just for looks (since even if you could run it at 25 bps, you'd get DQ'ed).

Let me propose a secenario for you ---> Your team just started out, you have little money, but your game is good. You all drop 300 clams and pick one of these bad boys up. You face a team with markers that cost three times what yours did. . . . . . . . . You find yourself with a ZERO ROF disadvatage. $$ != speed != an advantage anymore.

Let that one digest for a while.

BTW, lets be honest here. To get 17 (or even 15) bps out of a Mag, you're going to spend durned near $500 on it. Assuming you will run HPA on either marker, that's still a $200 head start for the Ion, and it comes with a barrel (which will likely not be too bad), adding even further to the discrepency.

Truer words have not been spoken in this thread yet! YAAAAAAAAAY Coolhand!

[tyrion2323]

This is simply speculation, but I think that this marker might improve sales for the BKO and Bushy.

Why? Well because up until now, to play in a high-end tournament you needed a 1000 dollar gun! (or so people tend to believe)

But if SP sells a $300 gun that rocks, it might turn people towards considering BKOs, Bushies, Omens, etc.

Just a thought. Might be wrong. Hope not.

[Lohman446]

So, how upset does anyone think Dave Youngblood is that SP put out a cheap - CHEAP spool valve marker - bet he didnt see this coming when he allowed them use of the spool valve.

[SlartyBartFast]

You know, this is retarded. No KID that can afford a 300 gun should have the ability to rail on it at...what? 25 bps? 30? This breaks the pattern of performance being "directly proportional" to price.

Oh well, it's retarded, and IMO, you are retarded if you have this in your gear bag.

Congratulations on the dumbest piece of illogic I've ever heard.

I guess it's stupid and retarded that we pay thousands less today for computers that are light years ahead in terms of performance compared to computers only a few years old. Hell, the first 286 machine in my house set my Dad's company back about $4000 dollars, the first 15lb "luggable" IBM with it's tiny screen even more.

[SlartyBartFast]

So, how upset does anyone think Dave Youngblood is that SP put out a cheap - CHEAP spool valve marker - bet he didnt see this coming when he allowed them use of the spool valve.

As long as he's still getting his royalties why the heck should he care?

[Creative Mayhem]

I'm not a big fan of SP... but this thing's features sound decent enough... now to see what the performance and real durability is like.

[txaggie08]

nice anology. glad im not the only one with a problem with that reasoning......

[WARPED1]

As long as he's still getting his royalties why the heck should he care?

Exactamundo! More true words!

[CoolHand]

This is simply speculation, but I think that this marker might improve sales for the BKO and Bushy.

Why? Well because up until now, to play in a high-end tournament you needed a 1000 dollar gun! (or so people tend to believe)

But if SP sells a $300 gun that rocks, it might turn people towards considering BKOs, Bushies, Omens, etc.

Just a thought. Might be wrong. Hope not.

I kind of agree, not so much that the Ion will drive people to the BKO or B2k5, but that the new rules will.

All the midrange, 15 bps+ capable markers, that are sub $450 will see a big boom in sales. DYE and SP will still sell the hard core super guns (that will have to detuned to 15 bps :rofl: ) to the paintball snobs, but the average Joe who would have bought an Imp and then upgraded four more times (to "keep up") will now be able to pick one and use it until it dies.

I think that's a good thing for paintball in general. The more people that come in who don't have the elitist attitude, the better it is for everyone. And it more or less goes without saying that this is a good thing for NPS and SP.

[Lohman446]

As long as he's still getting his royalties why the heck should he care?

The standard guess is that SP and Dye traded rights - no royalties - SP using the spool valve, Dye using electronics.

[SlartyBartFast]

The standard guess is that SP and Dye traded rights - no royalties - SP using the spool valve, Dye using electronics.

So, still, why should he care?

Unless the point might be that he'll be miffed because SP is likely to make a fortune with this approach.