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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #76
    Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
    So, still, why should he care?

    Unless the point might be that he'll be miffed because SP is likely to make a fortune with this approach.
    because SP just destroyed the "prestige" of the spool valve. Remember my comment on prestige marketting, its important to keep that prestige, and there was a certain prestige to the spool valve, be it well earned or not.
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • CoolHand
      Logic Industries LLC
      • Jan 2003
      • 3769

      #77
      I don't think DYE really cares what happens in the sub $500 category.

      Nothing they sell even scratches that market. They will continue to sell $1000+ markers, and people will continue to buy them.

      All I see coming from this between them is a lot of arguing from DYE customers trying to justify the added expense of their purchase. DYE need do nothing different, players buy their markers 'cause they want them. How they justify that to themselves is not DYE's problem.

      I doubt they'll even notice . . . . . . .
      Ryan Shanks
      Logic Industries LLC

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      • SlartyBartFast
        The Flying Scotsman
        • Jun 2002
        • 2940

        #78
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        because SP just destroyed the "prestige" of the spool valve. Remember my comment on prestige marketting, its important to keep that prestige, and there was a certain prestige to the spool valve, be it well earned or not.
        "Prestige" marketing? :rofl:
        What's the advantage to the company? Mass market has better profit potential.

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        • JAM
          Back from the Dead
          • Jan 2003
          • 953

          #79
          There really is something to prestige marketing... In most high end products, you are paying a premium for the name/brand. you can usually get much more profit per unit sold. That being said, if you can sella whole bunch of moderately priced items, you'll make crap load of money too.

          i think this gun really is revolutionary in terms of price/ performance. Think of it compared to most $300 guns and if it lives up to most of the marketing hype it will be awesome.
          sigs are overrated.

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          • Lohman446
            Useful posts: 7
            • Jun 2003
            • 9315

            #80
            Originally posted by SlartyBartFast
            "Prestige" marketing? :rofl:
            What's the advantage to the company? Mass market has better profit potential.

            Depends how many units you intend to sell, are able to sell, and the market you aim for. Tell Porsche theres no money in prestige marketting. Even GM has toyed with the idea of a hand built super car from time to time. Think of any car that sells for 60K+ - there are a lot of things that are marketed on prestige and sell well, Mass marketing is profitable, no doubt, but don't discount the profit potential of other forms of marketting - sometimes your product and your company are better served seeking other niches beyond mass marketing.
            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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            • SlartyBartFast
              The Flying Scotsman
              • Jun 2002
              • 2940

              #81
              Originally posted by CoolHand
              How they justify that to themselves is not DYE's problem.
              Of course it's their problem. Thay want to make the justification for buying their products as easy as possible.

              Otherwise, they lose sales...

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              • WARPED1
                I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                • Nov 2001
                • 7458

                #82
                Ferrari and thier Enzo is a prime example of prestige marketing........... it works.
                [Something Cool is Here]

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                • Lurker27
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 287

                  #83
                  Originally posted by RogueFactor
                  Mags do have interchangeable bodies. And rails too.

                  Saying they dont is a ridiculous understatment...

                  Bah. That's like any other gun saying it....Do timmies have interchangeable bodies? Spyders? Shockers?

                  You know what I meant.

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                  • WARPED1
                    I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                    • Nov 2001
                    • 7458

                    #84
                    MSRP on replacement ION bodies= $29.99. Any other gun have that? I think not.
                    [Something Cool is Here]

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                    • la690
                      Not a Member
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 647

                      #85
                      For those of you ripping on the cheap grip frame...



                      [email protected]

                      "wow they musta had some mad gats popin ya up fresh boy" -Nick O Time

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                      • tony3
                        LOOKING FOR AN ASIAN GF!!!
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 3740

                        #86
                        So much hate, the features that gun has are amazing for 300, no gun in that range has breakbeam eyes. Definitely an awesome gun. Great backup gun for people that can't afford another 1k+ gun

                        www.TeamNever.com

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                        • 68magOwner
                          Registered User
                          • May 2003
                          • 3475

                          #87
                          one has been ordered to my house (lil bro got one as soon as he got home, first batch of black, which is the first color to ship) so, i will have a review when it gets here, probably next weekend (ground shipping)

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                          • SlartyBartFast
                            The Flying Scotsman
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 2940

                            #88
                            Originally posted by WARPED1
                            MSRP on replacement ION bodies= $29.99. Any other gun have that? I think not.
                            Well, you COULD get Stingray bodies for less than that....

                            :rofl:

                            I still can't believe there are morons essentially arguing that paintball should remain an expensive sport....

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                            • Southpaw
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 534

                              #89
                              Nice
                              I think there for, I am I think. am I?

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                              • tyrion2323
                                Euroball=goodness
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 1654

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Lurker27
                                Bah. That's like any other gun saying it....Do timmies have interchangeable bodies? Spyders? Shockers?

                                You know what I meant.
                                No, lurker, he doesn't.

                                We've already had this conversation, and it's something that rogue and I (and you) will have to agree to disagree on...
                                My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
                                Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball

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