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  • 68magOwner
    Registered User
    • May 2003
    • 3475

    #46
    Originally posted by WARPED1
    Don't be an idiot just because you don't like SP. Thier legal issues may suck, but the guns are top notch.

    not really, I do shoot an AKA marker (till after this weekend) but, i shot SP markers for a while (nice imp) now, the imp was preety nice, but, i wouldnt say top notch by any means, and IMO all the shockers i ahve used have been on a lower performance level than my imp was, also, the metal is very cheap and not nearly as durable as other markers (lots of stripped out threads, ect) also, dont even start about the ano SP threw on the shockers, common, it fades away from just normal play, thats not good. the plastic bodies are probably an improvement over the metal they are currently using. With that said, my lil brother wis looking for a new marker, and will probably be ordering one of these when he gets home from school, look like great markers for $300

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    • behemoth
      SVSTC?
      • Nov 2002
      • 7750

      #47
      Originally posted by quik
      It looks completely plastic in those pictures.

      "interesting" though
      Dosent it?!?!

      'twas thinking the same thing...

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #48
        Originally posted by Target Practice
        You know, this is retarded. No KID that can afford a 300 gun should have the ability to rail on it at...what? 25 bps? 30? This breaks the pattern of performance being "directly proportional" to price.

        Oh well, it's retarded, and IMO, you are retarded if you have this in your gear bag.

        LOL - Admit it, your just annoyed because this sucker has features of many high end markers. I see this going in a lot of tournament players bags as a great back-up marker.

        Yeh, Im annoyed to, my DevilMag isn't here and I just ordered another marker for MUCH less than I paid for the DevilMag... but you know what, I am still going to be happy with the mag.

        And, if you wonder how it will effect sales of other markers - I was trying to peice together a mag last night just to play with - only missing the valve.
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • SlartyBartFast
          The Flying Scotsman
          • Jun 2002
          • 2940

          #49
          Originally posted by GT
          Neet gun, I dont think the exoskeleton is going to revolutionize paintball.
          :rofl:

          Dozens of PB Markers have been metal internals with a composite/plastic clamshell. Of course it's not a revolution.

          But, changing a shell makes a whole lot more sence than the stupidity of buying numerous Mag bodies at 300$ a pop or being really inane and spending 200-300$ on stripping and re-annoing a marker.

          Call me stupid, but I prefer to spend money on things that improve performance not perception.

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          • txaggie08
            Big mouth
            • Jan 2005
            • 1213

            #50
            Originally posted by Target Practice
            You know, this is retarded. No KID that can afford a 300 gun should have the ability to rail on it at...what? 25 bps? 30? This breaks the pattern of performance being "directly proportional" to price.

            Oh well, it's retarded, and IMO, you are retarded if you have this in your gear bag.
            so essentialy your saying becasue theres a possibility someone just lowered the price of performance there retarded. Has paintball realy become that elitist dang. im sorry but i dont see why a gun that could rip, yet be a good gun for 300$ is retarded. personaly im sick and D*@% well tired of being told "your guns not "high end" cause it only cost XXX$". who gives a crap if its not proportional? maybe the proportion just changed, and the only thing railing against that is gonna accomplish is to try to keep it elitist. maybe if performance goes up with price down, people will start to focus on being good players instead of making there guns ungodly fast.........

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            • Virem
              Registered User
              • Jun 2003
              • 210

              #51
              From what i can tell the only "plastic" part of the gun is the body cover... the frame and reg and everything else is powdercoated aluminum. Id say if this gun out preforms a BKO it will be great. Ill tell you what, id rather have stock in SP then AGD, or any other paintball company for that matter.

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              • Chronobreak
                Rec Poster
                • Mar 2003
                • 5055

                #52
                yes mags have interchangeable bodies but they are $. its probly a ncie thing for kiddos to change the bod on their gun like a cellphone for $25~ or so instead of spending $100+ for others.

                as for it being spool valve..

                it says plainly uses a noid(the new sp noid)

                while i dont think this marker is going to revolutionize anything but it seems to be a welcome addition(till they start dropping like flies )

                btw sp lawsuits aside they hoenstly dont make the highest end equipment nor use the best materials available. as with soem others ive seen stripped feednecks and screws etc etc. as well as noids blowing. I dislike sp busines practices but that has no relevancey on me disliking an oviously sub par product.

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                • WARPED1
                  I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                  • Nov 2001
                  • 7458

                  #53
                  Yes, mags have interchangeable bodies that cost $150. The ION bodies are under $50 I believe.
                  Originally posted by Chronobreak

                  as for it being spool valve..

                  it says plainly uses a noid(the new sp noid)
                  I fail to see your point, the Shocker has a 'noid, and uses a spool valve. The Matrices use a 'noid, and a spool valve....................
                  [Something Cool is Here]

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                  • BigEvil
                    www.BigEvilOnline.com

                    • Feb 2005
                    • 9333

                    #54
                    Originally posted by tyrion2323
                    What makes it an abomination? Have you shot one?

                    Didn't think so.
                    It's a Stingray on steroids. No, didnt shoot one, don't plan on - but I bet I will be fixing plenty of 'em.


                    I wonder if B.E. can sue them for using plastic for a paintball marker?

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                    • tyrion2323
                      Euroball=goodness
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 1654

                      #55
                      Let's all wait until this thing has been out for a while. If it sucks, then we'll know it. if it's okay, then it just means another option.
                      My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
                      Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball

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                      • Virem
                        Registered User
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 210

                        #56
                        Originally posted by BigEvil
                        I wonder if B.E. can sue them for using plastic for a paintball marker?

                        LOLOLOL, i may like the idea of the gun... but that so owned

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                        • tyrion2323
                          Euroball=goodness
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 1654

                          #57
                          Originally posted by BigEvil
                          It's a Stingray on steroids. No, didnt shoot one, don't plan on - but I bet I will be fixing plenty of 'em.


                          I wonder if B.E. can sue them for using plastic for a paintball marker?
                          It is nothing like a stingray. Find a single similarity. Yes, it uses a polymer shell, but the body itself is aluminum.

                          Again, they way i see it is that we shouldn't judge it until it's been out for a bit.
                          My AIM Intimidator is better than your Automag. Get over it.
                          Hobart Paintball AIM Paintball

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                          • Lohman446
                            Useful posts: 7
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 9315

                            #58
                            Sales pitch

                            "Spool valve, the same valve design theory that operates this DM5"
                            "If you scratch this part, or if you want to change color just $29.95 (GUESS)"
                            "Rebound firing mode, just like Strange uses in the NXL"
                            "Break beam eyes"
                            "299.95 - tank and hopper you're shooting for $400" (cheap tank, cheap hopper)



                            I ordered myself one just to have, and the store owner ordered several more.. these things are going to sell
                            "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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                            • WARPED1
                              I'm a pirate, ARRRRRRRRRR!
                              • Nov 2001
                              • 7458

                              #59
                              Originally posted by BigEvil
                              It's a Stingray on steroids. No, didnt shoot one, don't plan on - but I bet I will be fixing plenty of 'em.


                              I wonder if B.E. can sue them for using plastic for a paintball marker?
                              It's not. It uses a metal body frame with polymer sleeve bodies which are easily replaced cheap.
                              [Something Cool is Here]

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                              • CoolHand
                                Logic Industries LLC
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 3769

                                #60
                                The haters can say what they like, but I think you will see this marker take a lot of sales away from the other midrange markers.

                                AND, with the new 15 bps caps that are springing up all over, that extra $900 that you'll pay for a DM5 really is just for looks (since even if you could run it at 25 bps, you'd get DQ'ed).

                                Let me propose a secenario for you ---> Your team just started out, you have little money, but your game is good. You all drop 300 clams and pick one of these bad boys up. You face a team with markers that cost three times what yours did. . . . . . . . . You find yourself with a ZERO ROF disadvatage. $$ != speed != an advantage anymore.

                                Let that one digest for a while.

                                BTW, lets be honest here. To get 17 (or even 15) bps out of a Mag, you're going to spend durned near $500 on it. Assuming you will run HPA on either marker, that's still a $200 head start for the Ion, and it comes with a barrel (which will likely not be too bad), adding even further to the discrepency.
                                Ryan Shanks
                                Logic Industries LLC

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