Female Paintball "Stars": The Ultimate Poser?

[tsc]

Nip, we don't have to worry about getting hit in the boobs, either.

-TP

[nippinout]

Nip, we don't have to worry about getting hit in the boobs, either.

-TP

I do.

[tsc]

sigh...
Sadly things will not change. Paint Ball is fuled by the same wants and desires as everything in this world. Money.. having a team of attractive females is the equivilent to having 4 A list acresses endorsing your goods. It is human nature to flock twards things that are attractive (either physically or mentally). Doesn't mean it is right, but that is the way it is..The Paint Ball companies are going to endorce what makes them money... Sex sales.

The only time things are hard for an individual is when they allow it to be..The people around you only affect you if *you* let them. Motivation and determination bring results..
~steph

No, an individual is not the arbiter of all things which happen to them. Simple as that. Why ios there a stigma against single mothers? Because some of them are trashy, useless, and horrible mothers. They screw it up for the responsible single mothers who work their butts off and raise their children correctly.

I am motivated, and I am determined-- What do you think I'm doing here? Even though it looks (and feels) like I'm just slamming my head against a wall, I'm hoping to change the attitudes or actions of at least one person. That's all I want.

[LudavicoSoldier]

Nip, we don't have to worry about getting hit in the boobs, either.

-TP

Getting hit in the nipple sucks real bad for men too! Ouch...

[jewie27]

We have the Femme Fatales and Team Empress. That's a start.....

[tsc]

We have the Femme Fatales and Team Empress. That's a start.....

Of what?

[Muzikman]

Cameo, It's "Paintball"...one word

[Target Practice]

We have the Femme Fatales and Team Empress. That's a start.....

Did you even read the thread?

[Miscue]

This thread is interesting, but it seems to be a bit one-sided and I'm going to throw in something different.

It's difficult to put together a decent guy team that doesn't evaporate after a short time, and much more difficult to put together a decent girl team. There are WAY more guys interested in this game than girls, and their reasons for liking it may be different. For an all girl team to stick together for some period... I think it makes sense that they might come from different parts of the country, and I don't see anything wrong with this - and a local team of girls is a stroke of luck... that there are enough in an area.

I think that all girl teams are novelty teams at the moment. Is this inherently bad? No, I don't think so. An all pump team is a novelty team at a tourny, and I think that's cool to see... good for them!

A co-ed team makes more sense for the girls who are somewhat more serious about paintball. Individual girls will be able to shine more because you can play better when your team is better. And this way they can separate themselves from those who just do it for the attention. Hell, I do things just for attention too... but I didn't just admit to that.

If they enjoy the game more this way then great - if not, then that's fine too. I'm content with AO events, local walk-ons, and occassional local tournies and stuff. I don't really want to work at this game to be competitive and compete at the big stuff - that's not my idea of fun. I value the social part of the game, and I might not even do paintball anymore if it weren't for that. Does that make me a poser, squid, etc? I don't think so. Screw you if you think that!

What I get out of paintball is my own personal thing. If I loved the feeling of getting shot by paintballs, and that was the whole reason why I played - but it is not why you play - then more power to me! If the girls are enjoying what they are doing, however they go about paintball - good for them.

If they aren't very good, and act like they are - it is kind of funny, and it can get obnoxious really, if they push it... and yeah, I don't respect that kind as players... they are one of paintball's anomolies with how much attention they get, sponsorship, etc. Guys do this crap too - actually, they are way more notorious for this. Maybe girls get more grief about it because it's so normal for guys, but not so for girls. Hell, I know I suck but mouth off.

I would be tickled pink if an all girl team of strong players beat the snot out of the guy teams. I'd be a fanboy!

TSC and others... I feel for you and wish things were different. Keep trying to make the most out of it and be the exception to the rule. Everyone might not know, but you will, and some people will notice too and respect you for it.

[tsc]

I would be tickled pink if an all girl team of strong players beat the snot out of the guy teams. I'd be a fanboy!

TSC and others... I feel for you and wish things were different. Keep trying to make the most out of it and be the exception to the rule. Everyone might not know, but you will, and some people will notice too and respect you for it.

Your 'Strong team' is the issue. It would be impossible for a male team to have the kind of teamwork, communication, and knowledge of everyone else's style of play if they came from all corners of the country too.

Imagine...the Chippendales paintball team(mmm...Chippendales..Erm, sorry). The most attractive, studly men-types from across the nation. They practice once a month, maybe. They say they're a legitimate team, but win few games, and no titles. They'd be laughed off of the field-- why is this different for women? If the industry is all for the equality of women in paintball, why are the sub-par players coddled and pampered, when if they were male...they'd be told exactly what they did wrong, why, how to change it, and if they kept screwing up, they'd be off the team!


I speak for myself in that...I don't want to be noticed. I hate it. I want to go play, and to be treated like all of the male players out there-- trashtalked, but the SECOND I stepped onto that field, regarded as someone who is a serious threat to your team's victory. Not a novelty. I don't want respect for being a good female player-- I want respect for being a good player.

I feel like I'm just rehashing what I've been saying, but I just can't think of any other way to put it...

[Lee]

Imagine...the Chippendales paintball team(mmm...Chippendales..Erm, sorry). The most attractive, studly men-types from across the nation.

they already tried to recruit me, but i'm just too busy ......

[Eric Cartman]

Imagine...the Chippendales paintball team(mmm...Chippendales..Erm, sorry). The most attractive, studly men-types from across the nation.

If paintball was a sport dominated by women, then there would be all beefcake teams.
That'd be pretty funny actually.

I'm sure there are plenty of females playing tennis who aren't big fans of Anna Kournikova...

[SCpoloRicker]

We have the Femme Fatales and Team Empress. That's a start.....

d'oh!

tsc: just to steer in a new direction, do you think a stronger performing, all-female team on the national amateur level would encourage more ladies to play, with commitment, at our* level of play?

*our meaning basically what Brian said: AO events, walk-on with friends, occasional regional tourny

[RobAGD]

I Hope this will add a little bit to the mix with some info from someone that has been playing for a long time, with and against women paintballers.

The all Women teams while it may seem they have full boat rides don’t, they get gear and entrance fees and the stuff that GETS them to event to show off the gear and get the attention. Problem is they can’t get the $$ to put together a strong support/practice system.

Empress had a deal for entrance and gear but didn’t have much else, that hurt them as they almost never got to practice, but it did get them face time and game time. Problem with that is they tended to get rolled rather quickly so they really couldn’t learn much from that.

The fems suffer from the same problem from my experience and they have even more internal strife that I think almost any one knows of. Hell guys have egos women have egos and any one with a hint of good sponsorship tends to have extra amounts of ego.

I have watched women play paintball for 10+ years starting with the Lady Tree Dancers, Iron Maidens, Pevs Angels, Fems, Empress etc and it’s almost painful to watch. First thing I would say is they look like that have no idea what that thing in their hands if for, it looks like that have never handled it and it’s not a part of them.

Then there is the aggression factor. Men and women are different in that, it’s a fundamental thing. Paintball no matter what someone say is quite a bit about aggression, attacking and shooting. I think that comes a bit more naturally to men than women. Is it something women can learn sure, but I don’t think the women’s teams are being coached well in that since. Heck I have seen guys that are not aggressive enough but it stands out more when you watch women playing for some reason. I don’t think it’s an expectation thing but if you’re going to draw attention to yourselves then you’re going to get the brunt of the criticism.

It’s going to be years before there are enough women players that have the skills to compete at the pro level, but the good things is if the Fems, Empress, and other women’s teams help get more women out and playing that good for the sport and will ultimaty feed into the tourney level players.

Just a small note: an NXL team’s budget for a year is around 250-500k min. That’s everything, training, paint, travel hotels etc if someone wanted to have a competitive female team you would be looking at an investment of 3 years, $750k to 1.25m to get a team that I think could honestly compete. That would be getting all the players into a local area, working outs training, practice, then playing everything they can make for the next several years to get experience. You’re not going to see a split team be overly successful until you can tie it all together.

-Robert

[Thordic]

I just almost fell out of my chair. Hahahahahaha.