what would u rather have ? a5 or mag ?

[Jack & Coke]

like i said... liquid CO2 will play havoc on shot to shot velocities.

However, the A-5 WILL still shoot paint. The mag will not.

Does it make it better? yes and no... depends on your situation and what is important to you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying which gun is "better". I'm just pointing out a situation where the A-5 will still work, where the mag will not.

These "vs." threads really never accomplish anything other than turning into a pep-rally for the home team (gun).

It's really a matter of different tool for different job/conditions.

It's like: crescent wrench vs. vise grips

[Ken]

Jon just got owned

I'll break it down very simply.
The mag is a much more reliable design and have never replaced an o-ring in mine. Just wipe the o-rings and relube after a day of play and put it back in your gearbag. The classic mag is much more accurate, consisttent and efficent than my friends a-5. With the level 10 I never ever broke a paintball, but then again I only chopped once with my level 7. If you use HPA and with proper maintenence the mag will preform +/-5 to +/-3 with good paint.

The a-5 will be faster on the mag once you drop 200 into it, but remember that you can get a mag and all parts for 140 tops. A5 is iffy on paint and has a lack of usefull accesories. When I played with my friend my mag would outpreform his A5 in the woods and in speedball.

So go with the mag if you have access to HPA as you can get a very reliable gun that does what it should with no strings attached.

-Ken

[Meph]

Remarkable.

Automag owners are usually the first to cry that everybody else misunderstands mags. Complaining people have it wrong "they aren't blenders", "they aren't heavy" and you know the rest. And then to say people who say these 'ignorant' claims are always wrong.

Only to then turn and use the same uneducated reasoning to bash another gun/company.


Quite amusing I think, very ironic. But nothing unexpected.



Now as to question at hand, just use what is good for you. Speedball or woodsball. Lefty or righty. HPA or CO2. Just configure and use what is best in your hands. The answer never really ever changes from this no matter which markers are at debate.

Personally I much prefer my A-5 over my automag. That's why I sold my automag. I deliberately abuse my A-5, I have not oiled it or cleaned it since I got it. However I've added a couple items, but they too have seen the wrath of my laziness to "properly care." And what's the result? Well it has a distinct and attractive urban camo "anodize" to it... thank you oxidation from the garage! Screws and nuts rusted, still grass sticking out the cyclone. But every single time I gas it up it doesn't leak. Every time I pull that trigger it shoots, doesn't chop.

Not that I didn't enjoy my automag, I had fun with it. LVL10 was a major bonus, though 10 years too late. But hey that's me. I like the feel and balance of the A5, many people here instead prefer the feel of some major ULE-age, weezin the ju-uice... buuu-dy! (just watched Encino Man yesterday and still have Pauly Shore's voice in my head)

[eagle897]

I used to own an A-5, I sold it and I'm looking for a Mag now. I would say Mag even though I don't own one. The A-5 is a very nice gun, but just personal preference I would say Mag. Thats just me. And all of you that say the flatline bounces at long range, you are wrong. I have been eliminated many times by tippy's with flatlines. And those shots were at long range (135 + ft.)

[shartley]

[Wheelman]

oh it has been too long!

[Konigballer]

This thread has strayed from it's original context, and part of the reason is because the guy who started the thread titles it "what would u rather have ? a5 or mag ?" and then poses the DIFFERENT question "what is a better gun for woodsball?".....THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS!! Hence the thread seems to be going all over the place.

If you ask me the rather general question "what would you rather have, A5 or Mag", I would say that I would generally prefer a mag. But the totally different question ""what is a better gun for woodsball?" puts the question in a context, unlike the first one. In that case, and based on my past use of both brands, Tippmann and AGD, as well as the performance of both models mentioned, I would choose the A5 for woodsball play even though, in general, I would choose a mag over an A5.

Tippmann is really a woddsballer's company in a way that no one can say AGD is with a straight face today. Alot of the explosion in the scenario market in the past few years was, and is, fuelled by kids who bought 'mil-sim esque' Tippmann markers like the M98 and A5 and wanted to customize the crap out of them. Tippmann reliability, like a Mags, is unquestioned and they also have excellent customer service and support, so arguing on the reliability point is pretty useless despite the price gap. Its like comparing one AK-47 to another, they both are rugged and reliable in the extreme compared to most other models out there.

However, in the A5 a woodsballer has a near endless stream of customizing options available to him from almost every aftermarket company as well as from Tippmann themselves. And I'm talking about marker specific parts and accessories, not a red dot scope for a M-16 that you stuck on your Tac-1. You would be lying if you said even a fraction of that kind of customization, specifically geared towards scenario/woodsball play, was true about the Mag, especially the Tac-1 version. If we totally cut out brand loyalty, wich is hard to do for most members because they've had such a long history with AGD, I would choose the A5 specifically for woodsball play.