Mag or Ion

[Geniusa100]

Ion all the way

get an ion. @ 2.2 lbs and 17 bps, out of the box the stock barrel is accurate. You cannot beat the gun for the money. Add a little longer barrel and you'll be able to function in any capacity. You won't have any probs out of the box and you'll have a marker that can compete with any on the field. THE WAY TO GO IS THE ION!

[BD_Paintball]

there is no contest here, the ion will beat the mag in every category.

[Lohman446]

there is no contest here, the ion will beat the mag in every category.

Maybe.. maybe not. As others have pointed out long term reliability (unproven in the Ion) may go to the mag. Submersability (why anyone would want to do that is beyond me) goes to the mag.

[BD_Paintball]

Maybe.. maybe not. As others have pointed out long term reliability (unproven in the Ion) may go to the mag. Submersability (why anyone would want to do that is beyond me) goes to the mag.

well my mag craped out in like a year so i would take it that the ion will go longer then that.

[Lohman446]

well my mag craped out in like a year so i would take it that the ion will go longer then that.

It might.. I own one. Without maintenance and with regular use I'm not sure... with maintenance I expect them to last a long time. Judging by the lack of proper lube sent with them though I expect to see quite a few problems from lack of maintenance.

[yakitori]

I know lots of ppl at the field w/ leaky mags too. They arent foolproof. Even ppl that work there own mags and have a certified AGD tech, thier guns still leak.

Whos to say that the Ion wont last as long as a mag?

[Lohman446]

To me.. the markers in performance (semi-only, no rebound) are very close. That being said where I play they allow ramping, so its handy to have.

When it comes down this close... one has to ask if the Ion, which costs about 35% less than a mag doesn't just win by default.

It comes down to where you place what values on a marker. I can assign the same strenghts and weaknesses to a marker when I look at them as someone else, yet reach the total opposite conclusion as to which is the better one for me depending on much weight on put on each strength or weakness. I think he has some decent comparisons here, to make his own judgement of value of each factor.

[yakitori]

In semi w/ my Ion I can get way faster than my mag. Even w/ ULT, I can walk it a little bit, not reliable for long strings, but in bursts it works great. I took the trigger magnet out of the Ion, heated it w/ a lighter, and made it much lighter. I can walk it easily at 14 bps or more. Thats faster than my mag by a long shot. And no shortstroking. Rebound is nice too, but I dont feel the need for it, unless I am playing a tourney that allows it.

[slade]

ok first of all half of what you listed is irrelevant, like accuracy, range, trajectory, etc. theyre all the same for all the guns. disregarding spin (flatline) all markers will have the same range and trajectory, since they are shooting at the same velocity. and accuracy is mainly in the ball and barrel, not gun. the only thing in the gun that affects accuracy would be the shot to shot consistancy, which will vary but should be acceptable in most guns.

as for chosing a marker for you, im gonna go against what most people here said, and pick something you didnt list. get a mechanical autococker. the only thing it doesnt have which you would be looking for is reliability, but after a while you should be able to tech a cocker fine. and anyway the ion probably isnt all that reliable either. you said you werent looking for speed, so that means you really dont need something fast like an ion or even ult'd mag; the speed of a mech cocker should be fine. and autocockers are quiet as hell, really some of the quietest markers out there. they arent that light but arent all that heavy either, and since you arent worried about speed you wont need the eyes or LX, and you can probably tune it enough that itl pinch balls. and if it does chop, you can always get a halo, you wont outshoot that. and also since youre a woods player who seems to want to only shoot 2-3 balls at a time, a great thing about a cocker is you can always buy a pump kit. plus the best thing is mechanical autocockers are dirt cheap, you can find a good one on ebay for a bit over 250 or an older cocker for even less.

however if you want the reliability and dont mind the noise, you can go with the mag.

[Asian_Sensation]

ugh i dont understand! why would one get an ion for woodsball?!?!?!? its obviously a speedball marker! i still say get a mag or take a smarter route and get a phantom or some other nice pump.....its perfect for a scout who doesnt really get into an engagement.

pump>ion for a woodsball frontman
quiet..
light...
accurate....
can get a few shots off at a decent rate.....
cheap
MAJOR STYLE POINTS!!!!!!
get a remote setup for it and look way sweet plus it makes it lighter, Also you can get wristbands that hold the mini pods of paint!!!! wristbands!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but if your destined to waste your money on smart parts the company that is only there for the money...... or AGD the company that has bad advertsing and is probally going out of bussiness... go for the mag, they came b4 the ion/shocker design(i guess smart parts cant think of there own design) and are more ?virsatile?(i need spellcheck ) then smart parts built for speed products. and mags are pretty cheap.... 250$ for a custom pro from AGD website...amazing deal. plus look at the markers on here! can get uped ones for cheap also!


oh and your SP lovers are annoying..... AGD >(<--greater than)SP

[yakitori]

ugh i dont understand! why would one get an ion for woodsball?!?!?!? its obviously a speedball marker! i still say get a mag or take a smarter route and get a phantom or some other nice pump.....its perfect for a scout who doesnt really get into an engagement.

pump>ion for a woodsball frontman
quiet..
light...
accurate....
can get a few shots off at a decent rate.....
cheap
MAJOR STYLE POINTS!!!!!!
get a remote setup for it and look way sweet plus it makes it lighter, Also you can get wristbands that hold the mini pods of paint!!!! wristbands!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but if your destined to waste your money on smart parts the company that is only there for the money...... or AGD the company that has bad advertsing and is probally going out of bussiness... go for the mag, they came b4 the ion/shocker design(i guess smart parts cant think of there own design) and are more ?virsatile?(i need spellcheck ) then smart parts built for speed products. and mags are pretty cheap.... 250$ for a custom pro from AGD website...amazing deal. plus look at the markers on here! can get uped ones for cheap also!


oh and your SP lovers are annoying..... AGD >(<--greater than)SP

SP haters are more annoying than ppl who give credit to a gun when credit is due. Have you even shot an Ion? It shoots very nice. Stop bashing SP just because of a lawsuit. The Ion is a great gun.

Dude. The Ion is quieter than a mag. Even w/ the stock Ion barrel compared to a mag w/ a stiffi. You can use any gun for woodsball. The Ion is fine for woodsball. An ion is 285 shipped compared to the 250+ shipping for the pro and it will out perform the pro hands down.

Go w/ the Ion.

[frop]

Now, most people upgrade their guns right away anyways, be they Ion or Mag, so, ppl, please ditch the out-of-the-box crap.

Really, what you need to do is shoot an Ion and see if you like it more than Mags. It seems that your wallet will support either option, so IMHO, feel is what it comes down to.

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[Lohman446]

Let me say this, I love my Ion and would take it over a mag almost any day. When it started sleeting at the tournament yesterday though I was wishing I had an old classic mag in my gear bag. I think an old classic (yes, I prefer the classic valve to the X for this application) without LX (again, application specific decision) and a ULE body would have been nice to have.

[Asian_Sensation]

yes i shot the ion btw.... when it first released, The local field shop was repairing them.... cuz the 3 peeps who got one had mad problems with the Sp junk... dont get me wrong i was amazed at first by it when i shot it...but after the kids had to get it fixed after a few games, i was like hmm ill stick to a mag.



i still suggest a phantom or like someone else has suggested in here a cocker uped to a pump that would be way sweet.

[yakitori]

yes i shot the ion btw.... when it first released, The local field shop was repairing them.... cuz the 3 peeps who got one had mad problems with the Sp junk... dont get me wrong i was amazed at first by it when i shot it...but after the kids had to get it fixed after a few games, i was like hmm ill stick to a mag.

what problems was it. Most problems that hey have are because they are bought by noobs. Ive seen ppl trying to put gun oil in them. Ive seen ppl turn the reg up above 200psi. Ive seen ppl do lotsa things that cause them to screw up. The ion is not junk. Stop hating SP just because of a lawsuit. Just because YOU are loyal to YOUR mag doesnt mean the ion is junk.