Mag or Ion

[WARPED1]

I'm getting a black or chrome SFT Shocker reg. Stainless Freak back.

[Glickman]

Thanks for the help guys. So here's what I'm thinking:
Ion (duh)
CP 2-piece barrel
CP feedneck
CP Trigger
QEV
I already have:
68/45 HP tank
CP drop
CP on/off
Maybe:
CP shorty reg
If y'all can't tell, I <3 CP!

cant think of a better list

although.... a karta would be nice

[yakitori]

cant think of a better list

although.... a karta would be nice

its not a karta body. Its called Foehn. It is however a deadlywind body, but they arent out yet I dont think. It is supposedly somewhere in the range of 150 bucks. I would personally wait for the Strange body since you can unscrew the back remove the bolt w/o disassembling the marker and lube and replace. Makes maintainance so much faster and easier.

Nice list so far. I would prolly go w/ a no rise feedneck though. CCM makes some nice ones.

Stiffi barrels are better than CP barrels too, and will make your setup that much nicer. .

CP triggers are nice though. Also, throw some hybrid grips on there and itll be lookin sweet.

[Dragunzfly]

Well if you go with the ION then you could do a trigger "mod" to it and it makes the trigger pull almost like .5 oz. i dont know if its that but it sure isnt as hard as a stock mag. ut i love mags too!

[Lohman446]

Stiffi barrels are better than CP barrels too, and will make your setup that much nicer. .
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You've done reasonably well so far at posting well thought out, defendable positions. So I ask you on this - why? I'll give you weight immediatly, but what else? I don't see any quantitative data to support this.

[yakitori]

You've done reasonably well so far at posting well thought out, defendable positions. So I ask you on this - why? I'll give you weight immediatly, but what else? I don't see any quantitative data to support this.

ya hold on a sec. Ill go get my years worth of numerical data to support my reasoning. :P j/k

Heres some of my opinion, most of which doesnt take a statisical study to prove. Most of it is blatantly obvious if you have both barrels and use both back to back to do a comparison.

Sound (quiet)
Customer service
Appearance
Zero coefficient of expansion
wont sweat (aluminum does)
Strong barrels
No ano to scratch up (or match to your gun)


I personally feel they have given me tighter groupings than my CP barrels have. Have I dont research on it? No. This is my personal testimony. I just felt he wanted a CP barrel because everything he listed was CP.

IMO, that is what makes stiffi barrels nicer than CP barrels. But its preference.

CPs are cheaper though, and you can use battle swabs on them.

[Glickman]

its not a karta body. Its called Foehn. It is however a deadlywind body, but they arent out yet I dont think. It is supposedly somewhere in the range of 150 bucks. I would personally wait for the Strange body since you can unscrew the back remove the bolt w/o disassembling the marker and lube and replace. Makes maintainance so much faster and easier.

Nice list so far. I would prolly go w/ a no rise feedneck though. CCM makes some nice ones.

Stiffi barrels are better than CP barrels too, and will make your setup that much nicer. .

CP triggers are nice though. Also, throw some hybrid grips on there and itll be lookin sweet.

yes, but i have heard that a karta is in the process somewhere on this forum, so hopefully its true

[JimmyBeam]

yes, but i have heard that a karta is in the process somewhere on this forum, so hopefully its true

its true. hopefully they are working on a removable back piece for it too

[mark_1791]

ya hold on a sec. Ill go get my years worth of numerical data to support my reasoning. :P j/k

Heres some of my opinion, most of which doesnt take a statisical study to prove. Most of it is blatantly obvious if you have both barrels and use both back to back to do a comparison.

Sound (quiet)
Customer service
Appearance
Zero coefficient of expansion
wont sweat (aluminum does)
Strong barrels
No ano to scratch up (or match to your gun)


I personally feel they have given me tighter groupings than my CP barrels have. Have I dont research on it? No. This is my personal testimony. I just felt he wanted a CP barrel because everything he listed was CP.

IMO, that is what makes stiffi barrels nicer than CP barrels. But its preference.

CPs are cheaper though, and you can use battle swabs on them.

What is sweating?
Are stiffis really worth the extra $40?

[yakitori]

What is sweating?
Are stiffis really worth the extra $40?

well at High ROF w/ my viking, the barrel gets so cold from decompression that moisture can develop on the barrel. Also if the temperature change is enough it can cause the barrel to get condensation on it. Probably not a worry for you since you live in TX. .

The stiffi is worth the extra $$ to me, but you may not think so. CPs are cheap and nice. They are great bang for the buck. Im just into stiffis.

Dont listen to me though, its your money and gun. Put whatever ups on it you like.

[yakitori]

Anyone provide a source for the Karta body for Ions.

Ive not heard anything about a karta. I have heard of the Foehn, but thats it. I will email Colin and ask him. This is new news to me.

[FlynnRuss Productions]

With all due respect your opinion is worth pretty close to ZERO if you do not back it with reasons. Yes I have owned or do own both markers.

Ha. Please. And I guess your opinion matters? I was simply giving my OPINION, yes I said opinion. Go away.

[Lohman446]

Ha. Please. And I guess your opinion matters? I was simply giving my OPINION, yes I said opinion. Go away.

With all due respect your opinion is worth pretty close to ZERO if you do not back it with reasons. Yes I have owned or do own both markers.

You need to read the entirety of the post and make the consideration. To come on and state "mags are better" or "Ions are better" or to even say "the Angel G7 is better" is of very little use if you do not state some reasoning. The reasons one marker is better than teh other is seldom based on quanitative analysis of all of the factors, and mostly based on qualitative analysis. Perhaps the reason you think mags are better is important to the person asking - perhaps it isn't. If you at least state a reason then he can weigh why you have come to your conclusion, and decide if he himself would reach that same conclusion.

[doober]

sorry if you answered this...

but from what i've read(correct me if i'm wrong) the ion has POLYMER BODY, Plastic Trigger, and metal triggerframe and reciever

[yakitori]

sorry if you answered this...

but from what i've read(correct me if i'm wrong) the ion has POLYMER BODY, Plastic Trigger, and metal triggerframe and reciever

chimed a little late there didnt ya. Im sorry ppl havent noticed, but plastic is a polymer. So is polyurethane. It still has characteristics of plastic. Thats why ppl refer to it as plastic.