For anyone, reguarding ramping/enhanced firing modes..

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  • MadPSIence
    Innovation 101
    • Mar 2005
    • 969

    #1

    For anyone, reguarding ramping/enhanced firing modes..

    Ryan Greenspan, Dynasty cabana boy, was caught pulling near 22bps vs. XSV which I believe carries a heavy penalty. Well.. we all know the pros do dirty stuff time to time but this opens up a new matter.

    With enhanced firing modes allowed.. it is impossible for cheaters to be caught before entering a field..and often even if they do cheat on field.. anything short of a NPPL ref-crew will have no way in hell to stop it.

    So I'm guessing he probably had some sort of membrane switch or something to bypass the legal settings.. which well anyone can do for a small cost. Seeing as how cheating is all but unstoppable now, what do you guys think about this? Think.. guns are checked before the game.. but if a tap on a pad or special anything can bypass.. not only can speed be ramped but so can velocity via well or other settings and practically anything.

    Further out... I went around reading the reactions of people in the PB community and I was deeply saddened to see the amount of support for Ryan Greenspan and Dynasty after the incident.
  • Flow_Tech
    AKA Couponqueen89
    • Jun 2003
    • 1571

    #2
    uhhh..not to be a jackass or anything,but the owner of Tadao,Will,built in a code into the dynasty boards that dont allow them to be used in any other way then how they should be...they cant be changed to have a "membranepad" that changes the top ROF..what probabbly happened was that he just put the top ROF on the uncapped ramping setting to show off/check for shootdown during high ROF and didnt turn it back down.
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    • MadPSIence
      Innovation 101
      • Mar 2005
      • 969

      #3
      Originally posted by Flow_Tech
      uhhh..not to be a jackass or anything,but the owner of Tadao,Will,built in a code into the dynasty boards that dont allow them to be used in any other way then how they should be...they cant be changed to have a "membranepad" that changes the top ROF..what probabbly happened was that he just put the top ROF on the uncapped ramping setting to show off/check for shootdown during high ROF and didnt turn it back down.
      do you really believe at a professional level that is the case? truly?

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      • Flow_Tech
        AKA Couponqueen89
        • Jun 2003
        • 1571

        #4
        its very possible,i know for a fact that i have done that same thing,as my alias works sometimes without shootdown and sometimes doesnt.Anything is possible.
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        • Chronobreak
          Rec Poster
          • Mar 2003
          • 5055

          #5
          i doubt it was an accident, and even so for such an event he should have double checked his mode/rof/w/e to be compliant with the rules of the event.

          i feel a HEAVY penalty is in order, and if future occurances should happen banishment from that league.

          stiff punishments are the only way to curve cheating.(If its not worth the risk of cheating then people wont, or very few will)

          top level teams are considered icons/examples to many people, and frankly they arent being very good ones.(this comment isnt directed at any team inparticularly)

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          • magman007
            I <3 my Penis
            • Jun 2001
            • 7579

            #6
            Frankly, i think ramping is gay, i think it is a cover up for a lack of skill, he obviously put it up, and didnt care.



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            • Snyiper
              Registered User
              • Oct 2001
              • 25

              #7
              Well to to totally stop cheating you are going to have to go to a IROC kind of thing where everyone uses the same type of marker, all made the same and inspected and handed out before each tourny. Since the "Pros" have all the latest gadgets the markers should be so equipted and the boards made non adjustable and sealed. Skills will be the determining factor that way and the cheating will be put on the back burner as far as guns go anyway!
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              • shartley
                paintball player
                • Mar 2001
                • 9169

                #8
                Originally posted by Snyiper
                Well to to totally stop cheating you are going to have to go to a IROC kind of thing where everyone uses the same type of marker, all made the same and inspected and handed out before each tourny. Since the "Pros" have all the latest gadgets the markers should be so equipted and the boards made non adjustable and sealed. Skills will be the determining factor that way and the cheating will be put on the back burner as far as guns go anyway!
                Glenn
                Well NASCAR does not use the same cars but they do a good job preventing cheating. While I agree that an IROC style thing would be the easiest, I doubt manufacturers would allow that to fly.

                I suggest that if the penalties for equipment cheating (and any for that matter) are high enough that would do the trick. But you have to have event organizers willing to enforce those penalties.

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                • drg
                  Half-cocked
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1112

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Snyiper
                  Well to to totally stop cheating you are going to have to go to a IROC kind of thing where everyone uses the same type of marker, all made the same and inspected and handed out before each tourny. Since the "Pros" have all the latest gadgets the markers should be so equipted and the boards made non adjustable and sealed. Skills will be the determining factor that way and the cheating will be put on the back burner as far as guns go anyway!
                  Glenn
                  hey that's a pretty good idea. i mean add your own loader, tank, barrel, even grips but the gun itself can't be modified.
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                  • Southparkrocks
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 271

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Flow_Tech
                    uhhh..not to be a jackass or anything,but the owner of Tadao,Will,built in a code into the dynasty boards that dont allow them to be used in any other way then how they should be...they cant be changed to have a "membranepad" that changes the top ROF..what probabbly happened was that he just put the top ROF on the uncapped ramping setting to show off/check for shootdown during high ROF and didnt turn it back down.
                    Can't the dynasty boards be uped to virtue for 75 bucks?

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                    • BD_Paintball
                      UW-Whitewater Paintball
                      • May 2003
                      • 2268

                      #11
                      i was standing by the pits when it happened and he was saying that something was messed up with the board. he played earlier in the day it was fine, and i dont thing he would do that on purpose b/c there would be no way he would get away with it. i also took a pic of him talking to some guy about it but i dont feel like linking it.
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                      • tdogreb
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 100

                        #12
                        If you belive that he did it by accident or that his board was screwed, I got a bridge I will sell you, cheap.

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                        • MadPSIence
                          Innovation 101
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 969

                          #13
                          rather than go straight IROC on guns why not just simply limit all firing to semi-automatic.. AND to insure this happens..

                          have the boards supplied by the NPPL

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                          • Duck Hunt
                            Spam
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 434

                            #14
                            Where'd you hear about this? Get us a link.

                            Sean

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                            • MadPSIence
                              Innovation 101
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 969

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Duck Hunt
                              Where'd you hear about this? Get us a link.

                              Sean
                              dynasty forum on pbn..

                              you should be able to find it w/o a link

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