For anyone, reguarding ramping/enhanced firing modes..

[GordDesigns]

OK this might be a little old school, of even crazy but.

I this player is in the Pro level, and knows how fast he can really fire.
Does it not sound likly he will know when his marker is malfunctioning, and at that point call himself out or bring it up to an official.
Just so he does not get into the position he is now.

I know that does not seem like reallity but, just call it optomistic?

[MadPSIence]

Like I've said before on this forum on other topics... paintball is the only competitive team sport where there is no existing ettiquette or honor.

[vonort]

Once again I say make them use PUMPS!!!! Last I checked there is no ramping or cheat modes with a phantom.

[SCpoloRicker]

rather than go straight IROC on guns why not just simply limit all firing to semi-automatic.. AND to insure this happens..

have the boards supplied by the NPPL

Crap, you're right.

[Automaggot68]

what would be cool is a key that goes in the back of the frame to turn some kind of cheating switch on, and you can hide it in your glove or something.

i dont know if it would work, dont even had an electro gun... yet...

That really isn't feasable.

Or you could just tap the trigger in a pre-programmed rythem/pattern, such as the the example given by Bill MIlls of WARPIG.com. He did a great article on gun boards. I'll find the link. In a bit.

OK this might be a little old school, of even crazy but.

I this player is in the Pro level, and knows how fast he can really fire.
Does it not sound likly he will know when his marker is malfunctioning, and at that point call himself out or bring it up to an official.
Just so he does not get into the position he is now.

I know that does not seem like reallity but, just call it optomistic?

(not aimed at you, just going along with your post)
Even then, the player should be aware that all of his gear is either IN, or OUT of working order. If not, he should remedy the probelm as soon as possible before the game begins, and I highly doubt that the Dynasty boys dont have a few backup's laying around.

[BD_Paintball]

[UTDragun]

wasnt dynasty the one who was caught putting a predator board in their gun and using breakout mode?

[SlartyBartFast]

Sure. Because all those mainstream sports that do so well constantly change their rules and are fluent in what they accept as equipment...



Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, ....

Problem is that paintball hasn't decided exactly what the "sport" is. To date, it has "evolved" into a paint-slining competition designed not to enhance competition by leveling the field or provide spectators with a good show but to provide sales and profit centers for the promoters and as marketing stages for the manufacturers.

[BD_Paintball]

Sure. Because all those mainstream sports that do so well constantly change their rules and are fluent in what they accept as equipment...



Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, ....

Problem is that paintball hasn't decided exactly what the "sport" is. To date, it has "evolved" into a paint-slining competition designed not to enhance competition by leveling the field or provide spectators with a good show but to provide sales and profit centers for the promoters and as marketing stages for the manufacturers.

look at those sports when they 1st became popular. then look at them now. there is TONS of change in those sports. paintball is a new sport just like all 4 of those sports when they came out. 3 point shot, helmet to helmet rule just to name 2 of them. once the sport gets established like those 4 are now then they can stop changing things.

[trains are bad]

i still think having the NPPL contract companies to build NPPL new-spec boards capped with semi only.. would fix everything.

Stop it. You are being reasonable. There are many ways to fix the current situation. The problem is not that it's hard, it's that nobody wants to. The first step is to admit that you have a problem.

paintball is the only competitive team sport where there is no existing ettiquette or honor.

Not really, more like paintball is the only existing competitive team sport with no existing AUTHORITY OR INTELLIGENT RULEMAKING BODY. And please don't suggest that those refs or that league are what passes for such. Other sports appear to have ethics and honor because they get banned, fined, and penalized for doing otherwise.

Problem is that paintball hasn't decided exactly what the "sport" is. To date, it has "evolved" into a paint-slining competition designed not to enhance competition by leveling the field or provide spectators with a good show but to provide sales and profit centers for the promoters and as marketing stages for the manufacturers.

Truth doesn't get truer than this. If we still had sigs I would rock that quote, because sad as it is, it's the damn truth. Painball has been sold out.

[SlartyBartFast]

look at those sports when they 1st became popular. then look at them now. there is TONS of change in those sports. paintball is a new sport just like all 4 of those sports when they came out. 3 point shot, helmet to helmet rule just to name 2 of them. once the sport gets established like those 4 are now then they can stop changing things.

Firstly, how fundamental are the rules changes?
Secondly, over what time span have they evolved?

Did they change before becoming popular? I doubt you can show that. All played by a pretty standard rule set long before tey were popular.

Did the rules or equipment change? Certainly.

But none of them fundamentally changed the rules, the format, the equipment, or the team size as paintball seems to do from year to year.

Most rule changes are to reward good play > 3-point throw
or promote safety > helmet to helmet
or punish cheats
or to improve game play.

Name one sport where the game changes simply because the equipment changes. Except for technology showcases, rules control equipment not the other way round. Even then, in technology driven sports, the safety rules are paramount and NOT to be changed by the "evolution" of equipment.

[armyboot]

I wanna know what the punishment will be.

Shooting almost 7bps over the limit is a BIG deal. He had to sit the rest of the Chicago event, but being that it was the last game and all I don't think that's enough.

The best way to make sure nobody can ramp etc is to give 'em all 12v revvys. That'd even up the playing field a bit.

[VFX_Fenix]

I remember once uppon a time in the antiquity of Electro paintball guns that there was a gentlemen's agreement that no electro would shoot over 13bps as an industry standard. Yeah... that really lasted...

[yakitori]

I thought NPPL did not allow ramping. I thought the 15bps rule applies to PSP/NXL/CFOA. I thought NPPL was still semi only.

Someone correct me if Im wrong. But you guys seem to think that NPPL has adopted the 15 bps rule too, which I dont think is the case.

It really makes you guys look like you dont know much about it.

how many times have you guys heard this statement. "I can shoot 13-16bps on my RT mag"

[SlartyBartFast]

how many times have you guys heard this statement. "I can shoot 13-16bps on my RT mag"

What does that have to do with anything?

Tarnishing Mag users with the statements of a few, used to describe events that are not even necessarily done at a time where they violated rules, does not condone the actions of others.

An RT mag used with a runaway trigger is as despicable as a ramping board when they are not allowed or a ramping board that fires faster than allowed by the rules.

So, put up or shut up. Point out a single specific hypocrite that condones cheating/breaking the rules with a Mag while attacking the same with other guns.