For anyone, reguarding ramping/enhanced firing modes..

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  • SlartyBartFast
    The Flying Scotsman
    • Jun 2002
    • 2940

    #61
    The racing example is overused, but it fits perfectly.

    And by the way, restrictor plates work regardless of the fuel or engine technology. Various racing series have effectively banished better technology in the form of diesel cars and turbine cars by defining maximum number of cylinders/displacement and by requiring restrictor plates to be installed.

    Formula 1 is a clear example of how a technology based sport can repeated redefine itself (sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse). They once had turbos, special fuel, traction control, ABS, semi-automatic gear boxes, ground effects, active aerodynamics.....

    Then at different times and to varying degrees, the sport decided that various technologies should be removed or changed to increase competition, increase safety, or refocus the competition on driver skills.

    Even in cycling, far superior technology has been eliminated from competition by rigidly defiining the allowed configuration for the bicycles.

    Originally posted by Lohman446
    I present that well advancement should occur, it does not mean that you have to use every little edge that technology can get you to be populer, using these edges just helps sell players new gear as the rules and technology keep advancing.

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    • yakitori

      #62
      paintball guns and cars or racing is a retarded comparison. Youre comparing apples and oranges. Its pointless to try to make that connection. But oh well, ive seen it done over and over on AO.

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      • SlartyBartFast
        The Flying Scotsman
        • Jun 2002
        • 2940

        #63
        Originally posted by yakitori
        Ive proven my case...
        You couldn't proove the Earth is round or that darkness is a lack of light.

        Read your posts again Yukky. If you're honest with yourself you'll see that your few nuggets of truth are buried in a pile of steaminh dung.

        Hitech gave me three hails. The people who are worth respecting respect me back. That's all that matters to me.

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        • Lohman446
          Useful posts: 7
          • Jun 2003
          • 9315

          #64
          Originally posted by yakitori
          paintball guns and cars or racing is a retarded comparison. Youre comparing apples and oranges. Its pointless to try to make that connection. But oh well, ive seen it done over and over on AO.

          I'm comparing limiting technological advancement in competetive events and using an example where they have successfully done so. How is that retarded?
          "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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          • SlartyBartFast
            The Flying Scotsman
            • Jun 2002
            • 2940

            #65
            Originally posted by yukkitori
            paintball guns and cars or racing is a retarded comparison..
            How's it RETARDED? Huh smart guy? (there's another one of your trademark insults and putdowns with zero intellectual substance)

            Originally posted by yukkitori
            Youre comparing apples and oranges. Its pointless to try to make that connection..
            It's apple and oranges? Make some intelligent points and tell us how. But counter point arguments made not make your own personal tangent.

            It's pointless? Well others have said why it's relevant. You've just whined and griped.

            Originally posted by yukkitori
            But oh well, ive seen it done over and over on AO.
            And you complete it all with the standard hattrick. Tarnish and insult the entire AO community.

            In the words of Bugs Bunny: "What a maroon." :rofl:

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            • bound for glory
              retired bootboy
              • Sep 2004
              • 368

              #66
              heres a "new" idea. limited paint. lets see how much speed matters when you only have your hopper filled.

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              • SlartyBartFast
                The Flying Scotsman
                • Jun 2002
                • 2940

                #67
                Originally posted by bound for glory
                heres a "new" idea. limited paint. lets see how much speed matters when you only have your hopper filled.
                Certainly. But hardly new.

                One of many ideas, but I've broached the subject before and all the fanboys are still more attracted to big name, big prize competition than a good clean test of skill. Why else has every major event gone that way?

                limited paint
                standard marker
                standard hopper
                stock class
                modified stock class

                or even the current rules and game with the rules enforced effectively and without hesitation.

                ALL would be an improvement to the current "proffesional" ranks.

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                • yakitori

                  #68
                  hey, FatFartyBastard. I can change your name too. Yours looks dumber than mine.

                  your a bunch of pansies that cant take the heat. If all you can do is gripe about ramping, you need to stop playing paintball.

                  And, I HAVE proven my points. Look at the link in my thread. You asked who is against ramping and I gave you a link to many ppl who have posted against it, yet want pred board, or new firmware for their emag. You tally up the names dork, youre so smart. You do it. Im not wasting anymore time on your ignorant posts. Again, you speak of American paintball like you live in the states. Whos the maroon? I think you are. You are a hardcore nerd.

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                  • SlartyBartFast
                    The Flying Scotsman
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 2940

                    #69
                    American?!? Paintball.

                    It's played all over the world you dweeb. Unfortunately the Fanboys here (and elsewhere outside the Excited States ) read the same paintball news drivel as Americans do. Also, the game attracts the same Rambo idiot wannabes and other mental cases everywhere.

                    And why do we have to play your way or leave? We're not all cheaters or moral degenerates who don't care about the rules. Caring about the rules doesn't hinge on how much speedball I play.

                    In fact, the more I play the more I want to test my SKILLS. One of which would be shooting skills. And not just the depths of my wallet or my skill and stretching and breaking rules.

                    You haven't quoted a single hypocritical word. And only in the logically impared world where decisions are all black and white and all decisions/choices are absolute would any of your thinking make any kind of reasonable sense.

                    While my name may be funnier, and it's an internet forum so why do I care what you do to it, I'm willing to have a poll on who thinks who's line of "reasoning" in sillier.

                    But I admit the name change was a low blow, far too personal, and uncalled for. I still stand by everything else I've said.

                    And I just realised something. Seeing as you're ALWAYS ragging on AO, you obviously don't see yourself as part of the group. So why do you stay?

                    Or, why don't you drop the hyperbole and simply discuss a few points without making rash generalisations.
                    Last edited by SlartyBartFast; 06-28-2005, 10:27 AM.

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                    • Load SM5
                      Scruffy Administrator

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 6772

                      #70
                      Slarty and Yakitori- Take it anywhere else but here. It's getting out of hand. First and only warning.


                      Moorewatch

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                      If you read this in English, thank a soldier.

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                      • MarkM
                        UK Cougars
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 2433

                        #71
                        To all taking part in this thread back up and think before you post. Flaming and personal attacks are grounds for bans. Regardless of if you agree with the others person's comments or not. Try and keep it to a civil level.


                        I will say is that if you set a marker to illegal settings it will stay there until you change it as they don't magically change...how those changes are made differs from board to board some are sensibly set (takes a while to change) others are not.
                        Different leagues have different stands with regard to what is allowed or not, their reasons for reaching these rules are their reasons not for the great unwashed to complain about...you either play under those rules or you don't, by that I mean you comply or if you choose to cheat then accept the consequences.
                        This is not the first time Dynasty has been involved with suspect firing (regarding alledged board failure).
                        Breakout modes were around long before the Predator included them....why do you think it was called a breakout mode...Predator modes are clear and precise no hidden "Ninja Death Monkey" modes.
                        Ramping in one form or another is here to stay, many said that Constant Air would prove to be the death of paintball then it was semi's then electro's now it is modes, yes there was a time when even a Classic Mag was banned from tournaments...the most common complaint is the rules regarding hoppers and force feed allowability (not a word but it fits).
                        Do the crime and you pay the time, Salms and Avalanche both did.
                        Mark UK Cougars


                        UK Cougars
                        Sterling Owners Group. Member #39

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                        • hitech
                          Not a shedder of vortices
                          • Nov 2001
                          • 4775

                          #72
                          Originally posted by MarkM
                          Different leagues have different stands with regard to what is allowed or not, their reasons for reaching these rules are their reasons not for the great unwashed to complain about...
                          I would wholeheartly disagree. For if "we" don't complain, no one will. And "we" are what all this is about. It's kind of like saying that a countries citizens shouldn't complain about the laws it's government makes...


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                          • hitech
                            Not a shedder of vortices
                            • Nov 2001
                            • 4775

                            #73
                            Originally posted by MarkM
                            Ramping in one form or another is here to stay...
                            I don't believe that is a foregone conclusion.

                            Originally posted by MarkM
                            Many said that Constant Air would prove to be the death of paintball then it was semi's, then electro's...
                            I don't remember it that way. I remember "everyone" saying that you had to have them to compete...


                            Hey Hitech your starting to sound like me! - AGD
                            Hitech is the man.... :eek: - Blennidae
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                            • FSU_Paintball
                              (well, not any longer)
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 618

                              #74
                              I heard something about a battery putting out too much voltage, shorting out the board and uncapping it or something...

                              Sounds like a bunch of BS to me.

                              But honestly, 22BPS sounds a LOT different than 15BPS. I personally don't think it was intentional... it's just too obvious!!!
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                              • SlartyBartFast
                                The Flying Scotsman
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 2940

                                #75
                                Originally posted by FSU_Paintball
                                But honestly, 22BPS sounds a LOT different than 15BPS. I personally don't think it was intentional... it's just too obvious!!!
                                Who cares if it was intentional?

                                The rule was borken, the penalty needs to be enforced. If it keeps happening the penalty has to become harsher.

                                If it was intentional, the enforced penalties will discourage players from cheating. If it was unintentional it will encourage players to find reliable equipment that isn't capable of breaking the rules.

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