Ugh I'm tired of hearing about it...

[AGDlover]

OK I'm tired of hearing about people and thease ramping boards honnestly now. When Paintball was invented it was never though to have ramping boards let alone eletronic guns. Back the(note i'm saying this all from research) you'd be lucky to pull over 5bps. Everything was simple, no arguements, and no cheating. I'm sick and tired of hearing about Dynasty pulling 20+bps because of ramping. PEOPLE SHOOTING FASTER ISNT GOING TO HELP ANYTHING it wont help you to be a better player or a better shooter. IMO I think Ramping / Cheating Boards should be outlawed there is no point and its complete bogus. We are all lucky paintball has evolved to the point of even haveing electro markers. But all this about ramping, wiping, ect ect. Is makeing our sport courupt(sp). From now on all my mags will buy or build will be mechs. theres no point for some BS ramping

[tippmannsniper-]

if ur tired of hearing about it then just dont read the threads made about it, no one is forcing u

also why would u make a thread that WILL flare arguments about the subject?? if ur so tired of hearing it??

[AGDlover]

Because I was stateing a point that it should be outlawed because there is too much arguement over the subject allready and to have the PSP or NPPL haveing to change there rules because of it isnt cool

[tippmannsniper-]

the sport is evolving and people are looking for ways to get more firepower easier, u cant stop it, its to far into the sport

i dont like it either but there is not much u can do, until someone gets seriously injured due to it then its here to stay unfortunitly

[MadPSIence]

you're right guy. ramping should be banned, speed should be capped, and all boards should be supplied by the NPPL at the event. Whoever builds the boards I don't care but they should be regulated and made to perform the same.

take.. was and tag, contract them to make all of the boards for every gun in NPPL and have them regulated and tested before distribution at an event.

limit all firing to 15bps and have no enhanced modes.

i promise.. i PROMISE paintball will be a better sport.. and all gun-type cheating will be forever gone

[tippmannsniper-]

^^^ i wish, but then people would stop buying such highend guns due to the fact that lower end guns these days for cheaper can pull 15 bps so the need for a gun with higher bps would be gone therefor affecting the market negativley

but it would also affect companys in that they would start focasing on accuracy, efficiency, and quality rather than focusing on getting 25 ball to shoot out the end

so it has its upps and downs

this all if the nppl and psp and all that, supply boards

[tony3]

What is stopping someone from using a board made by was that is a cheater board? Really I would think the only way is to have someone supply the board that fits all markers that is locked in so that only psp officals can remove it. Then again what about the dwell on a gun? Certain gun parts require certain dwell. The 15 bps ramping is working great imo. They just need more people with radar guns out there that can do it from a distance.

My biggest compaint is refs are looking for illegal clothing, guns, gun speed and not focusing on their true job, THE GAME. Watch the actual game and know the rules. The refs at chicago open always would call players out but were afraid to make a call. When you bunker someone and they spin around and shoot you thats a penalty, no ref was making that call. Wait though, the second that gun goes under .065ms you get a penalty.

I think leagues just need refs that are willing to make a call and take harsh judgement. My biggest problem is refs that are easily manipulated. Make the call and stand behind it, if you were wrong, you made the call, keep it. We don't have instant replay whatever you said was your instinct and that is most of the time right over wrong. This happened to us at a tourney. One of my players had a questionable hit on his mask during almost the whole game and the ref never pulled him and clearly checked this hit and said it wasn't a hit. At the end of the game the other team kept complaining about it to the ref. Eventually the ref who called him clean during the game more then once, called him clean right after the game, now changes his call because the other team complained enough.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

well tony how would you feel if you have to spend 5 days getting shot at, baking in 90 degree + weather, only having a few slices of HOT pizza as the only meal, and putting up with the yelling of the spectators and teams?
As for the ramping... yea you wanna find a sollution? because banning and outlawing them is definately not happening

[KapitalJin]

All you need is a good mechanical gun with a smile... now thats the way it was meant to be!

[BD_Paintball]

i think the 15bps cap is great. just get more people out there to watch it. there is nothing wrong with the 15bps cap in my opinion.

[minimag03]

I think the problem hasn't be solved because the people in power are making all the money. Companies sell more markers when they make ramping a stock feature. Paintball fields sell more paint if they allow ramping.

The simplest way to stop ramping at the field is to talk to the owner. Find out what type of insurence he has for the field. Then point out the section of rules that allow no enhanced modes. Makes use they know they can loose their insurence if anything happens. Since paintball fields need insurence to operate, they would go out of business.

[BigEvil]

If you like ir or not, the monster is out of its cage and there is no getting it back in.

I think we had this same sort of debate a few other times....

*12 gram or CA?
*Pump or semi?
*Co2 or HPA?
*Mechanical or Electro?
and now its
*Ramping or no Ramping?

The game is evolving. Personally I liked paintball when it was my little secret, and every little 12yo with a skateboard wasnt playing

[Crazy]

well tony how would you feel if you have to spend 5 days getting shot at, baking in 90 degree + weather, only having a few slices of HOT pizza as the only meal, and putting up with the yelling of the spectators and teams?
As for the ramping... yea you wanna find a sollution? because banning and outlawing them is definately not happening

I hope your talking about the spectators.. because the refs get paid 125$+ per day.

And if your tired of hearing about ramping, why don't you stay in the woods where it's not a problem.

[SuiciDal Sn Y p ER]

lol i hope that last sentence wasn't directed towards me *hugs 15bps ramping timmy*

[ultralight]

And if your tired of hearing about ramping, why don't you stay in the woods where it's not a problem.

that's the thing, it is becoming a problem in the woods. rec players are playing with enhanced modes and if the tournament refs can't catch them then the re refs sure as heck arent going to. most of the rec refs are gun whoring kids who work at the paintball shop anyway, they like to see people shooting fast. to them the faster you shoot the cooler you are. at least that's how it is around here.