Has the electro seen its peak?

[Bear_Claw]

I been playing for a while (long enough to see the upriseing of electros) and can honestly say that electros if NOT banned or at least more regulated IT WILL be the end of the speedball side of the game at the least.

i dont pay money to play a game in witch my oppnent unloads a hopper on me "just to make shure im out" and in turn when i hit him/her they simply wipe it off and continue the game. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HONOUR OF THE GAME? my belife is it got FRIED when the elctros became mainstream.

I have never owne ANY electro markers (i have shot a few) and NEVER will. I STARTED in this game with a pump gun and movede to semis (all mehcs). I owned ONE full auto (RT 98C) and sold it in preferance of aslower more skill involved carbine.

IF i ever go back to the game i will add a 3rd gun to my arsenal an it WILL be a Phantom.

[punkncat]

oh and it doesn't help that quite a few tourny players are self righteous jerks

I have played paintball for many years. I get along pretty well with most players on the field. I recently have actually entered the tourney scene. I have played with that level of player for the past few years.
You have to understand the situation that many long time or "tourney" players find themselves in.
When you are a noob you go to the field to play. If you have a problem with your marker you ask a more experianced person to help with your problem. You are always asking to see better markers, asking questions, etc. Its usually of these better players, or the "tourney" players equipment and time....

Nowdays when I go to the field there are many days that I spend a good portion of my time fixing "noobs" markers, and answering questions I have answered a million times. In stead of being able to just go play w/o hassle I am having to be an emmisary of sorts, catering to this swarm of outside influence.
Some days you just don't want to put up with this stuff. just want to get some good game on with other people at your level w/o the hassle of babysitting a bunch of new guys. Lots of people find out that the easiest way to deal with this is by having an attitude of indifference to noobs. Therefore you don't spend half your day looking after their common and recurring problems.

[Miscue]

Instead of returning to my roots and going mech, I embraced the 21st century and enjoy the fast paced game of today, and I've played all forms of paintball. I been playing 16 years now. Adapt to survive, survival of the fittest. Deal.

Ha. Survival of the fittest! Last I checked, it didn't take much fitness to click a switch a couple times and the gun shoots for you at 20bps. Ooh, look at me laning! So much talent! Watch me camp here and wiggle my fingers! I can snap shoot 20 balls out, check that out!

If I were into fishing and they allowed the use of technology such as TNT - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

If I were into target shooting and they allowed you to mount your gun to an electronically controlled servo that uses a video feed and laser sights to aim at the target - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

If I was into cycling and they allowed you to use a motor assist (limited to X horsepower) - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

Why do we play these games/sports in the first place? Are these changes consistent with the original purpose?

[Miscue]

I been playing for a while (long enough to see the upriseing of electros) and can honestly say that electros if NOT banned or at least more regulated IT WILL be the end of the speedball side of the game at the least.

I don't see how it could be the end of speedball. However, I think the quality of the game continually lowers.

[WARPED1]

I been playing for a while (long enough to see the upriseing of electros) and can honestly say that electros if NOT banned or at least more regulated IT WILL be the end of the speedball side of the game at the least.

i dont pay money to play a game in witch my oppnent unloads a hopper on me "just to make shure im out" and in turn when i hit him/her they simply wipe it off and continue the game. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE HONOUR OF THE GAME? my belife is it got FRIED when the elctros became mainstream.

I have never owne ANY electro markers (i have shot a few) and NEVER will. I STARTED in this game with a pump gun and movede to semis (all mehcs). I owned ONE full auto (RT 98C) and sold it in preferance of aslower more skill involved carbine.

IF i ever go back to the game i will add a 3rd gun to my arsenal an it WILL be a Phantom.

Thats not the Eguns fault, that's cheating players wiping and playing on. When pneumag frames finally come out, watch just about every AO'er who buys one, overshoot.

Ha. Survival of the fittest! Last I checked, it didn't take much fitness to click a switch a couple times and the gun shoots for you at 20bps. Ooh, look at me laning! So much talent! Watch me camp here and wiggle my fingers! I can snap shoot 20 balls out, check that out!

If I were into fishing and they allowed the use of technology such as TNT - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

If I were into target shooting and they allowed you to mount your gun to an electronically controlled servo that uses a video feed and laser sights to aim at the target - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

If I was into cycling and they allowed you to use a motor assist (limited to X horsepower) - I wouldn't embrace it even if it was the "new thing."

Why do we play these games/sports in the first place? Are these changes consistent with the original purpose?

Thats NPPL, there is much more movement in XBall, face it, you're out of touch ya old fart.(that was a joke!)

[Ripforce56]

Iam 48 years old and started playing paintball with my 3 boys 7 years ago, we live in the country so we played woodsball with Tippman 98s, Mini- mags etc! We dressed in camo and we always had friends that came over to try the sport out and everyone had a good time because the playing field was level for everyone because no one had an advantage because of the marker they were using! It was about making good moves and shots and working together! But soon we started to play at our local paintball field and everyone including me bought in to the electro phenomenon! (Vikings E-mags, Timmys Electric cockers and now Protos and Ions etc.) Every time a new marker came out someone bought one and had to make it shoot faster, ( as if it needed to be ) Maybe a 100 balls a second will be enough Ha Ha! What I noticed is that we were not having as much fun any more, there was more short tempers, complaints of being overshot, and lots of trash talking going on. Because now the game was "Balls per Sec" and not about making good shots! Slowly our games started to get smaller and smaller, as players started to give up the sport! Now sadly our field has closed, so unless you play tourney ball our high end markers are useless! I have since parted out my E-Mag and bought a Phantom and now have a nice collection of pumps as do my kids, we now have about 15 pump markers in our house and other people have done the same! Guess what? The "Fun" is back again, snap shooting, making a good move, and Teamwork! Plus we play all day and use minimal paint and air! My older boys play college paintball and tourney ball, but they now love pump play the best! I do have a mech. ULE R/T mag in case I need it , but I do Believe that "Old School Paintball" Pump,Mechanical etc is coming Back!

[mobsterboy]

truer words have never been said

I have seen my slow decay into tthe tourney and electro scene. Back when I used to play woodsball with my friends, it was more of a fps duel, than a bps. It was a matter of "Sure, you've got an egrip for your a-5, but my mag(Single trigger) can go straight through wood Which i have no idea why all of you complained, you just didnt shoot your gun at a high enough chrono. CHOP???, never heard of it before i went speedball. It was truly fun. A hide and seek in the woods game, but since i went out with a friend, i found myself wanting faster and faster guns, and my pockets went from able to buy draxxus midnight for each game, to buying 2 buck chuck(For all you ppl in Cali with trader joes around, look for it, its a hellacheap wine)Paintballs for 20 a case. Not to say i dont like speedball, i just need to remind myself that im there for the fun. Win some. lose some. Im currently going back oldschool, building a cool hyperframed ule mag, but its more for show than playing. Everyone keeps asking "when are ya gonna morlock/pred it and wheres your emag/x valve?" But i figure my classic holds up, and cfoa only allows 15 anyway. I am about to get an angel, and the same questions will be up,"Wheres the ramping?" some ppl just dont catch on that with enough practice, the ramping is inside your fingers, errr....so to speak. Same with the cocker i have. Im talking with my tech and someguys like nice cocker, so i tell him thats pretty much my idea of a great cocker, and hes like, "No way dude, wheres teh blade?" Ppl just think its about having the fastest, not the most accurate

[spyder luver]

Instead of returning to my roots and going mech, I embraced the 21st century and enjoy the fast paced game of today, and I've played all forms of paintball. I been playing 16 years now. Adapt to survive, survival of the fittest. Deal.

I completely agree with ^! I didnt like playing mech its not fast enough for me, there isnt enough thrill of only having 12 balls max shoot out at u when u sprint for ur bunker, v.s 20 balls shootin at u imo it makes the game much more fun with electros and i shoot a low end electro which doesnt have ramp and i can throw out a constint 13 bps with my revy on. o i forgot to add i also started out with a brass eagle talon playing sum pump it was fun but not nearly as fun as even mech which after my pump i got a 98c and started to pimp it out but eventually sold all the upgrades and bought my spyder pilot acs and i luv being able to shoot faster then my friends! lol *they r working on upgrading their guns to electros* ....... but anywho im getting tired of typing so im gunna shut up....


o by the way all of u who r griping about the new electros dont gripe unless uve tried and if u have tried and u didnt like it shut up about the people with um and let them play how they like to *but wiping and playing on now thats just totally wrong!!!*

[Pyroboy597]

I think paintball will be the way it is now for a long time. Technology for faster hoppers, faster recharging regulators, and better air efficiency are at the limit that they can be at without sacrificing either money or quality. I dont think that paintball will ever be all pumps and old cockers, but i do think that those types of markers are showing up more often. Ive seen people play speedball with big wooden-stocked guns and be the last one standing. People will make a gun that can shoot 45bps with one finger on the trigger.. but it will not make money cause you cannot play at anywhere near those settings, and the cost of 45 balls per second is about a $1.50 a second... which is rediculous.

[11 Bravo]

I play alot of scenario games in Florida and I am sure that electros are here to stay. I see nothing but electros and guns with rt. I think I have seen two pump guns out there and one of them was Lee from AO. Other than that everyone is letting it rip.

[RogueFactor]

Instead of returning to my roots and going mech, I embraced the 21st century and enjoy the fast paced game of today, and I've played all forms of paintball. I been playing 16 years now. Adapt to survive, survival of the fittest. Deal.

The same thing could be said for baseball bats. At the pro level, wooden bats are the standard even though the 21st century alloys will allow players to hit further. To play pro, you either learn to play with wood, or you suck.

MLB knew that allowing anything but wooden bats just wasnt good for the sport at the pro level. Their vision for their sport surpassed the desires and needs of the manufacturers.

Embracing technology to compensate for a lack of skill isnt embracing a sport based on skill.

[FSU_Paintball]

You guys' experiences may differ... but around here we've got a lot of really good players and none of them shoot mechs. In fact, anyone who wants to compete around here shoots an electro. The only people around here who shoot mechs are those who want to step up but don't have the money yet. I don't see the electro dying out anytime soon, or even losing a large portion of the market anytime soon. I predict it will maintain a huge stranglehold on the market for a long time to come.

[SpitFire1299]

Old school is really fun. I dont like using my emag when we have team practice, because it takes 1 shot to take someone out(Well.. maybe more.. but im playing my own team). It takes a lot more to win when you have a mech gun, and obviously is more fun.

Also.. i dont understand whats so great about shooting REALLY fast. Who cares if your gun can shoot 20bps, its not needed at all. Its not electronic guns, its ignorant people. Xvalves can shoot +34bps tops.. but what does it matter? Its like riding a one speed bike, you can just about go as fast as you want, but you can only peddle so fast. Saying your gun can shoots 20bps max is like saying my 1 speed bike can go 100mph.

Heres a bonus..

Ideas usually come to me through stress. If something is not working, or I need to create something that has never been done before I will spend hours, days, even weeks thinking about it every free minute. I works for me like jigsaw puzzle where you have a lot of pieces laying on a mental table. I try to put them together in my mind and see what fits. The difference is I get to make up all the pieces. Eventually, just like a puzzle, the parts go together and once you get the big picture it goes together faster. Many times there are a few parts that fit together but don't go anywhere so you set them aside and see if they make sense with something else later.

That was how I used to do it on my own but that has changed now. When it comes to paintball I can only use the pieces you say you want. The players no longer give me the freedom to go where I think it should go, they have very specific ideas (whether true or not) about what they want.

For example, they only want stuff lighter, ok then it's plastic, no but they want it anodized pretty colors, ok then it's aluminum, yea but that is too expensive. Right about there is where religious perception comes in to drive new products. "NEW IMPROVED ALUMINUM COATED POLYMER! STRONGER THAN STEEL LIGHTER THAN AIR!" And the people say "YES, that's exactly what I wanted!" If it has any basis in fact has nothing to do with it, they take it anyway.

[RoadDawg]

Sold my emag, one because it took the "fun" or challenge out of the game. I'd much rather go to a mech only type of play. That way the only way a person will out shoot you... is with talent, not a deeper pocket book.

BTW I probably had a lots of fun playing speedball with a mech, then I ever did with any electro.

[minimag03]

Too funny

You're right. If we had our sigs, that would be sig worthy.