To the few people here I won't name..

[Lohman446]

So as long as I own one I can come here and bash them and your ok wiht that than? Because I recall a poll that indicated that the majority of people who responded to it owned mags on this board.

And if ownership means your opinion is worth more... and I have one of the most expensive automags purchased this year, than my opinion must be worth even more by that faulty logic. Right?

[JimmyBeam]

oh look...a dead horse. come on everyone lets go beat it some more!!

everyone is just going to have to agree to disagree. it goes with everything. every person is going to like something and at the same time dislike something else. and yes, this is the internet so opinions will be made without worrying who you piss off.

i have my views on the mag, as well as you guys have your views on my Ion. i dont want to hear your views, and you dont want to hear mine. but this forum is about paintball talk, not specific marker talk. i come here becasue there is more knowledge here than most of the other forums. but lately its just constant *****ing that goes back and forth.......who cares anymore. if you go out and enjoy a good day of paintball, does it really matter what you're shooting at the time?

[Kevmaster]

what happened to intelligent debate? what if i disagree about blah blah being a good thing related to mags. Do i shoot a mag? damn straight. Do i think its the best gun out there? prolly. does it have faults? you had better believe it.

look, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine may be that mags rock. Yours may not. I'll give you that this is a privately owned forum and the staff can delete/remove what it sees fit. However, theres no sense in bashing people who detract from mags. You're no better than they are.

Wany a forum that only praises mags? start one. see who comes. go have your 'circlejerk' as TP Put it, there. Here, we'll still have intelligent debate. I think thats what tom REALLY wanted when he built AO. If there are faults, he want(ed) to hear them. If there are bad things, he want(ed) to hear them. Nothing has changed. He doesnt (didn't) want 'yes-men'. He could have done things alot differently if he had. and a lot cheaper.

so get off your high horse and play nicely with the rest of us

[11 Bravo]

what happened to intelligent debate?

Here, we'll still have intelligent debate. I think thats what tom REALLY wanted when he built AO. If there are faults, he want(ed) to hear them. If there are bad things, he want(ed) to hear them. Nothing has changed. He doesnt (didn't) want 'yes-men'. He could have done things alot differently if he had. and a lot cheaper.

so get off your high horse and play nicely with the rest of us

I think this is what madscience was talking about. Intelligent debate. I am sure that most of us dont have a problem with the flaws being pointed out if it is in order to accomplish something other than to point out that mag owners have a p.o.s.
Point the problems of AGD out all you want but have a positive reason to do it other than to rub our faces in it.
There are problems and flaws with any marker out there. I dont run around to all the other forums and rub there face in it.

[magman007]

intelligent and madpsience do not belong to gether in the same sentance.

Do a search for his posts, and tell me if you found any thing remotely intelligent, that wasnt just a repeat of previous discussions.

[yakitori]

intelligent and madpsience do not belong to gether in the same sentance.

Do a search for his posts, and tell me if you found any thing remotely intelligent, that wasnt just a repeat of previous discussions.

and about 80 percent of them are started to spark arguments, flaming, and namecalling.

[MadPSIence]

and about 80 percent of them are started to spark arguments, flaming, and namecalling.

perhaps if 80% of my posts were in reply to yours.

a large number of my posts are indeed of debate, argument, criticism and rather liberal ideas. The thing is.. I back my posts without "flaming and namecalling"

the only people that find my posts to be flaming or insulting are the people without the intellectual capacity to participate in a debate without labeling and treating it as BS or a flame.

[MadPSIence]

intelligent and madpsience do not belong to gether in the same sentance.

Do a search for his posts, and tell me if you found any thing remotely intelligent, that wasnt just a repeat of previous discussions.

tell me what right you have to even speak or hold yourself so high when you make ridiculous flame posts such as this?

thus far you're fitting the description of repeating posts because you manage to post in every thread I debate in... only to provide substancless (sp?.. hell get me a thesaurus) and insulting posts.

[Lohman446]

maybe you should find a forum to your liking.

Why are you few people so demented

But I can say.. quit being a complete crap and shut up

Nobody here wants to hear from you.

you're just a thorn in the rear.

The thing is.. I back my posts without "flaming and namecalling"

I'm sorry, you don't troll, you don't flame, and you don't disrepect?

I'm calling shenanigans on your "innocence". You do flame people who disagree with you, and you started this thread for that purpose - it also served as an effective troll.

[MadPSIence]

I'm sorry, you don't troll, you don't flame, and you don't disrepect?

I'm calling shenanigans on your "innocence". You do flame people who disagree with you, and you started this thread for that purpose - it also served as an effective troll.

I'm sorry but you are doing a more terrible job of cutting and pasting to convince than michael moore...

All of the discected quotes of mine you just posted were not pointed towards ANY single individual.

Yet I'm sitting through people directly insulting me.. no problem them though.

So really.. I don't know how I've trolled at all. If anything you're trolling. How? You've gone through this thread... and done nothing but post off topic crap, insulting my character when enough people already are way off topic. That's trolling.

So, I've bascially thrown mild insult at unspecified people who are guilty of degrading this community. Therefore I'm a troll and flamer.

Well thought out!!

Really.. I don't want to be arguing with you. You're actually one of the people on this site I respect most and enjoy your posts outside of this thread.

[teufelhunden]

So, I've bascially thrown mild insult at unspecified people who are guilty of degrading this community.

Kettle, pot.

[MadPSIence]

Kettle, pot.

you're sitting in the kettle with a pot on your head. stop trolling. you have no useful input here.

[dahoeb]

there are some good posts on here, but i don't know how much good this thread is actually doing, i think it may enflame the problem more than help



magman007, do you realize this thread is partly about you probably?
you've never posted anything positive, and if you have, i sure as heck have never seen it. in case you haven't noticed, this is a MAG FORUM. maybe you should keep that in mind when you say how much more superior your dm4 or imp or whatever you shoot is. just a thought though.

people don't come on here to hear you say how mags suck. people come on here to get USEFUL, RELIABLE, and UNBIAS information based on facts. not to hear how much you hate mags compared to every other marker you've ever owned. this is one of the few forums around in paintball that you can still actually find useful information, and you do nothing but taint AO.

maybe you should go to pbn.

[Automaggot68]

people come on here to get USEFUL, RELIABLE, and UNBIAS information based on facts.

AO is NOT unbiased when it comes to mags.
There are ten biased people on here to everyone unbiased.


OMFG MAGS RULE.

[dahoeb]

AO is NOT unbiased when it comes to mags.
There are ten biased people on here to everyone unbiased.


OMFG MAGS RULE.

thats definately true automaggot68, but its a whole lot worse on the other major forums.