This just sickens me

[NewMagMan21]

I know this has been going on for a while.
But it just sickens me that quality online stores (actionvilliage) are selling ramping/ cheater boards. Its gross that cheating has become so mainstream that stores are supporting it.
Its gross and makes me want to vomit!

[Indignant]

Just accept it. It's part of the game now, and you will have to live with it. Not a favorable part of the game, but a part nonetheless.

[Blazestorm]

Ramping doesn't make a difference. No matter what people say or think. If you lose a game because the other team had "ramping" guns... you were going to lose in the first place. It gives them a slight edge, but if you're the better team you should win.

[soccer4minimags]

Speaking of action village, you know what sickens me.

If you have ordered from them lately you will see that the free ups shipping they used to offer has downgraded from UPS to USPS. How crummy is that, it took like 10 days for a package that used to take less than a week to get to me.

Something I have learned is that the ENTIRE PAINTBALL INDUSTRY SUCKS AT QUALITY CONTROL AND/OR CUSTOMER SERVICE. I have yet to find a company that truly is an exception, in any other idustry half these companies would not survive. Oh well I guess thats what we get when more than half the client base are minors, and everybody is out to make a quick buck.

[sol tank]

Speaking of action village, you know what sickens me.

If you have ordered from them lately you will see that the free ups shipping they used to offer has downgraded from UPS to USPS. How crummy is that, it took like 10 days for a package that used to take less than a week to get to me.

Something I have learned is that the ENTIRE PAINTBALL INDUSTRY SUCKS AT QUALITY CONTROL AND/OR CUSTOMER SERVICE. I have yet to find a company that truly is an exception, in any other idustry half these companies would not survive. Oh well I guess thats what we get when more than half the client base are minors, and everybody is out to make a quick buck.

USPS is not only cheaper, but it is also more reliable, quicker and better handling in my xperiences.

[Maggot6]

I have yet to find a company that truly is an exception, in any other idustry half these companies would not survive. .

Mike Cassidy from CCI.
I win.

[Lohman446]

I know this has been going on for a while.
But it just sickens me that quality online stores (actionvilliage) are selling ramping/ cheater boards. Its gross that cheating has become so mainstream that stores are supporting it.
Its gross and makes me want to vomit!

What is this cheater board you speak of? Many places allow ramping. How is it cheating if the rules allow it? We need to change these terms. Regardless if you agree with ramping or not it is no longer, at least in many places, cheating.

[Timmee]

I know this has been going on for a while.
But it just sickens me that quality online stores (actionvilliage) are selling ramping/ cheater boards. Its gross that cheating has become so mainstream that stores are supporting it.
Its gross and makes me want to vomit!

You do know that some tourney promotions allow ramping, don't you? If it's allowed according to the rules, it's not cheating.

[ZEROte]

why does it sicken you if a store wants to make a profit and will sell what is popular? its not disgusting its a smart business move.

[Lohman446]

I challenged this board on the hypocrisy found on it by some people awhile back and was told it didn't exist. Bounce and run away are cool, Predator / Morlocked E-mags and Devilmags are great, hybrid mode is just awesome. But controlled ramping is "cheating" and apparently those who use / promote / or accept it, even within the confines of the rules, are idiots. At least thats the opinion I get from some fraction of these boards.

[ZEROte]

well the predator is cheating. how can it be that a gun shoots super fast just by changing a board? its cheating in a real bad way because the gun now shoots 20+bps. which would you rather be hit by 15 bps or 20+bps?

[FSU_Paintball]

I know this has been going on for a while.
But it just sickens me that quality online stores (actionvilliage) are selling ramping/ cheater boards. Its gross that cheating has become so mainstream that stores are supporting it.
Its gross and makes me want to vomit!

*ahem*

IT'S NOT CHEATING, IT IS A WIDELY ACCEPTED MODE OF FIRE IN MANY TOURNAMENTS AND TOURNAMENT SERIES.

It's only cheating if you're not allowed to do it. PERIOD.

Doesn't mean I really like it. But at least it's not dangerous. You want to talk about dangerous, put a mag on runaway or a semi timmy in uberbounce mode. THAT'S cheating.

[Lohman446]

well the predator is cheating. how can it be that a gun shoots super fast just by changing a board? its cheating in a real bad way because the gun now shoots 20+bps. which would you rather be hit by 15 bps or 20+bps?

The boards cheating? Its a designed system that allows you to configure the modes of fire to meet the requirements of the rules you are playing in. The Predator board, with its superior range of options, allows you to program most any setting on the marker, from when ramping engages to what the rate of fire limit is. You can set it to comply with the rules of the tournament, be it strict semi uncapped, strict semi capped, ramping after 6 shots, ramping after 3 shots, ramping capped at 10/12/15 (or any number really), uncapped ramping limited by the speed of your loader.

The board itself is not designed to cheat, it is designed for versatility and to be able to follow the current rules (and most likely future) of whatever tournament series you choose to play in. Failure to follow those rules is not the fault of the board, but the fault of the player. The board is not a cheater... its an inanimate object that follows inputed instructions from the user.

[BigEvil]

I know this has been going on for a while.
But it just sickens me that quality online stores (actionvilliage) are selling ramping/ cheater boards. Its gross that cheating has become so mainstream that stores are supporting it.
Its gross and makes me want to vomit!

Many places allow ramping, so I guess it cannot be considered cheating in these instances.

[Lohman446]

IMO this thread is the modern day equivilant to

"It just sickens me that major companies accept the cheating in the sport and don't exclusively encourage its play how I feel it should be played. I mean, why do they sell anything but Nelson markers and oil based paints. They sell semi-auto's, constant air, and even those dangerous high pressure air systems. This is not how I think the game should be played and it sickens me that these major for profit companies sell to anything but the way I think things should be played. Why should they consider that others may play different styles or under different rules. Anyone not playing with a Nelson marker is cheating. Anyone not playing in the woods on a massive course in an elaborate game designed around capturing several flags is just playing a version made to help them cheat."

Its an annoying and rather simplistic view to think that just because a company sells things you do not agree with they are catering to cheating.