This just sickens me

[craltal]

Last time I checked, the purpose of a retail establishment is to make money. When they offer free shipping, they make less money than if they charged for the shipping. If you want it via UPS, pay for it.



It's not worth wasting your time trying to explain reality when they so clearly care to live in their own little hypocritical world.

[warbeak2099]

Consider also that ramping actually puts more emphasis on skill than semi only. When 2 ramping teams are playing each other, it's much harder to move. You need to be able to move faster and smarter. You have to think quicker.

The skill that ramping does eliminate is the skill of being able to shoot fast. This is a skill which a lot of people groaned about. Ex. "Man, these kids are all just trying to be able to shoot faster. All you need is one shot. It's sick that emphasis is being put on just shooting as fast as you can, blah de blah blah blah..."

Well, now that emphasis is gone. With 15bps caps and ramping, more emphasis is put on strategy and thinking. So, NewMagMan21, you are complaining about a factor in our sport that promotes using your head more. I'd rather play a smart game with 15bps ramping than some idiotic "chicken without a head" game whre everyone is just running around shooting as fast as they can (Aka NPPL). And just for clarification, a lot more cheating happens in the NPPL (semi only) than in PSP/CFOA/etc (15bps ramping). Please get your priorities straight and/or support your rant with facts.

[SCpoloRicker]

RAWWRRR

teh ramping is teh suxorzs!!1

[Indignant]

omgstfu

/punch In Face

[SCpoloRicker]

Do you even go to school anymore?

[Death of Rats]

I don't think it is neccasarily the ramping or cheater board that bothers me

unless it has to do with increasing the velocity (anyone doing this should be taken out and shot, with their own marker of course)

what bothers me about all of these boards basically come down to three very easy to see points.

1st. The usage of more paint than even the high end triggers that people could actually truthfully shoot couldn't let loose. Four cases in one day unless you are at a scenario just shooting at human hordes is ridiculus. Honestly why people.

2nd. We as a community (paintballers) should quit referring to anything that increases the rate of fire of a paintball marker as a cheater board. Unless said board is being used in a way that is forbidden on a field or in woods than it is not a cheater board.

3rd. The truly worst thing that has come not only from the cheater boards but from the high end electro triggers (yes in a time of weakness I bought one of these guns however since then I have been trying to remove it from my personal arsenal.) Back to the worst thing these triggers cause significant amounts of actual cheating/wiping that is going on. Where the boards should not be called by the cheater title I want all people who wipe be it in a tournament or otherwise to be labled as such. Sadly these triggers have help to start a serious trend. And these people wipe due to the amount of paint in the air. They don't want to spend 200 dollars for entry fee into a tournament and get knocked out by a lucky ball off the break. But then they practice their supposed art in recball games. And they destroy the sport. YES DESTROY THE WONDERFUL SPORT THAT IS PAINTBALL. So they wipe. This drives me batty. I don't care if you are the kid that just started to sport or Chris laswhatever his name is this is very bad. I know that there were wipers before the high end guns however now the numbers are rising. Loose fitting clothing to get more bounces don't tell me you people are comfortable in those jerseys in 100 degree heat. I laugh at those people. then saying oh but i need an undershirt too. ARRRGHHHh.

It has become an arms race. We are putting out higher end markers to put out higher end body armors.

Sorry about the rant. It just gets on my nerves. We as a sport must be honorable to grow.

[phantomhitman]

I challenged this board on the hypocrisy found on it by some people awhile back and was told it didn't exist. Bounce and run away are cool, Predator / Morlocked E-mags and Devilmags are great, hybrid mode is just awesome. But controlled ramping is "cheating" and apparently those who use / promote / or accept it, even within the confines of the rules, are idiots. At least thats the opinion I get from some fraction of these boards.

ding ding ding, i agree

also, i guess they should take down the low end guns with burst and full auto modes too right?

[68magOwner]

I am a better player playing in semi only events than i am at ramping events.

Because, i can shoot fast, shoot offhanded, shoot while reloading, shoot while crawling, run and gun effectively, ect. Things that not everyone can do in strict semi. Where as, with ramping, anyone can do any of the formentioned things with ease.

That is what is negative about ramping for me, it took skills which took months or years to perfect and basically handed them out to everyone. So, where as i was "talented" because i could do all my shooting stuff well, now anyone can, so, im just another kid on the field.

Playing with ramping has put more emphasis on strategy, teamwork, and being able to think quickly/adapt to changes, and make moves. But, id still prefer play semi only whenever applicable.

[phantomhitman]

I am a better player playing in semi only events than i am at ramping events.

Because, i can shoot fast, shoot offhanded, shoot while reloading, shoot while crawling, run and gun effectively, ect. Things that not everyone can do in strict semi. Where as, with ramping, anyone can do any of the formentioned things with ease.

That is what is negative about ramping for me, it took skills which took months or years to perfect and basically handed them out to everyone. So, where as i was "talented" because i could do all my shooting stuff well, now anyone can, so, im just another kid on the field.

Playing with ramping has put more emphasis on strategy, teamwork, and being able to think quickly/adapt to changes, and make moves. But, id still prefer play semi only whenever applicable.

ding ding ding, we have another winner. that is exactly how i feel about the introduction of ramping into the sport. but i am not going to cry about it.

[Dayspring]

1st. The usage of more paint than even the high end triggers that people could actually truthfully shoot couldn't let loose. Four cases in one day unless you are at a scenario just shooting at human hordes is ridiculus. Honestly why people.

Never played at a big tournament then have you?

Loose fitting clothing to get more bounces don't tell me you people are comfortable in those jerseys in 100 degree heat. I laugh at those people. then saying oh but i need an undershirt too. ARRRGHHHh..

As opposed to a non baggy one? Yup. I'd rather have something that's a bit more flowy than closer to the body on a hot day. And the rule is "No GROSSLY OVERSIZED clothing or more than 2 layers." So a XL jersey and a tshirt underneath is completely within the rules.

Not to pick on you, but you sound like you're a woods/rec player. Go to IAO, go to NPPL/PSP and play a tourney. See how long your views will stay the way they do if you want to actually compete.

(I do agree that wipers suck b/c it can totally ruin a day of play. But high end electros had NOTHING to do with wipers coming about. Did it increase it? A little, but not as much as you might think.)

[firebanex]

Mike at CCI is the best.

ramping; its your choice to shoot so much, I would rather play wiht my mech cocker and my phantom than shoot an egun.

[CKY_Alliance]

Speaking of action village, you know what sickens me.

If you have ordered from them lately you will see that the free ups shipping they used to offer has downgraded from UPS to USPS. How crummy is that, it took like 10 days for a package that used to take less than a week to get to me.

Something I have learned is that the ENTIRE PAINTBALL INDUSTRY SUCKS AT QUALITY CONTROL AND/OR CUSTOMER SERVICE. I have yet to find a company that truly is an exception, in any other idustry half these companies would not survive. Oh well I guess thats what we get when more than half the client base are minors, and everybody is out to make a quick buck.

Just pay the little extra money...i didnt have a free shipping option so i checked what i think it was 4-8 was and 2-6 was only like 1 or 2 more..so i got that and both packages came within 2 days. Its free what do you expect...but yea usps is cheaper...

[Death of Rats]

As opposed to a non baggy one? Yup. I'd rather have something that's a bit more flowy than closer to the body on a hot day. And the rule is "No GROSSLY OVERSIZED clothing or more than 2 layers." So a XL jersey and a tshirt underneath is completely within the rules.

Yes yes I have played at tournaments and yes I know that is what people wear. I was trying to make a point about the larger jerseys. I don't really care if they are within the rules or not if you have ever seen someone wear one you surely know that there only real purpose other than to stop the pain of horrible overshooting at extreme close range(evil electros) is to gain as many bounces as physically possible. I find this to be a mild form of cheating IN MY OPINION. I know that they are within the rules however rules as well as rule makers have been wrong before. Pope Innocent the Third. Hey lets castrate boys to make for better singers. Not a very good rule. (sorry that was really random but still) .

I play recball now days simply because the tournament seen has turned to far away from what I consider to be a fun game.

Really come on though. Do you really need 4 cases of paint for 7 games of paintball. How accurate are you???

[Faddy]

Yes yes I have played at tournaments and yes I know that is what people wear. I was trying to make a point about the larger jerseys. I don't really care if they are within the rules or not if you have ever seen someone wear one you surely know that there only real purpose other than to stop the pain of horrible overshooting at extreme close range(evil electros) is to gain as many bounces as physically possible. I find this to be a mild form of cheating IN MY OPINION. I know that they are within the rules however rules as well as rule makers have been wrong before.

Mild form of cheating? Come on, you're either cheating or your not. Even though it's trite to say, this is like saying, "She has a mild form of pregnancy." She's either pregnant or not. The definition of cheating is to violate the rules. You even admitted that these clothes are within the rules. That automatically makes it not cheating.

Pope Innocent the Third. Hey lets castrate boys to make for better singers. Not a very good rule. (sorry that was really random but still) .

And this is in relation to cheating how? Yeah, it was a bad idea. Yeah, maybe allowing some forms of baggy clothing is a bad idea, but that baggy clothing is within the rules, meaning it is not cheating. Just because something is a bad idea does not make it cheating. Remember, constant air used to be considered a "bad idea." Compressed air used to be considered a "bad idea." Many things in paintball have been considered "bad ideas," even after the became allowed. If they were allowed, was it cheating to use them?

Now, with regards to ramping boards and things like that. I think they're fun to play with, but I have yet to use any mode other than semi on a field. Why? I don't believe in it. I think people use it as a crutch. I shoot plenty fast enough without modes. So, I think we're in agreement with some things.

[phantomhitman]

Yes yes I have played at tournaments and yes I know that is what people wear. I was trying to make a point about the larger jerseys. I don't really care if they are within the rules or not if you have ever seen someone wear one you surely know that there only real purpose other than to stop the pain of horrible overshooting at extreme close range(evil electros) is to gain as many bounces as physically possible. I find this to be a mild form of cheating IN MY OPINION. I know that they are within the rules however rules as well as rule makers have been wrong before. Pope Innocent the Third. Hey lets castrate boys to make for better singers. Not a very good rule. (sorry that was really random but still) .

I play recball now days simply because the tournament seen has turned to far away from what I consider to be a fun game.

Really come on though. Do you really need 4 cases of paint for 7 games of paintball. How accurate are you???

hey, you forgot to put the sarcastic smily at the end. Because that is all this whole post is.