Just a thought.... (propane)

[mobsterboy]

w/e, invest away then, a $300 frame and $100 pneusmatics for a gai gun that should have never come out because ppl can now use zippos and these to make flamethrowers.

[neppo1345]

w/e, invest away then, a $300 frame and $100 pneusmatics for a gai gun that should have never come out because ppl can now use zippos and these to make flamethrowers.

people wont be able to use zippo's to make a super flame thrower...there is a very tiny amount of propane used. I'm quite sure that probably 98% is used up in the combustion, and the other 2% is hardly enough to create any type of noticeable combustion...and the exhaust doesn't come out of the barrel...its exhausted underneath the barrel by the pump...

The only way to make a flame thrower from the gun would be to rip the reg off...screw a tank into the bottom line and light it...it'd be pointless...
might as well just get a $15 propane reg from a sporting goods store and have your fun with that...
BTW...you mispelled gay...

And this gun should have come out...new things need to start somewhere...this is just a baby step to something bigger...

Don't be immature...

[mobsterboy]

didnt know if they would star it out. i mean, you cant spell phag with an f, or it gets done out.

[Glickman]

didnt know if they would star it out. i mean, you cant spell phag with an f, or it gets done out.

watch out thats filter circimvention and people have been banned for it.


how is it "homosexual"? did the marker come on to you?



neppo is right, if you want a "flame thrower" your better off buying an asa and just light that, because to make it work off of the C-3 you would have to create a fluid flow of propane, take off the reg, take off the barrel, re-route the exhaust system.

you were also the one that thought it would melt if you shot more then 4 bps. so, if it cant handle 4 bps, how would it be able a steady stream of combusted propane?

[Boydster]

To all of you arguing about the heat issue...

Well, your also assuming that they do not find a way to distribute the heat more rapidly.

[Glickman]

To all of you arguing about the heat issue...

maybe a silver thermal paste, relatively in-expensive.

[mobsterboy]

yes, first the gun did come onto me, but i told it that i was with your mom and she was somewhat better looking than it. 2ndly, what the hell did you try to say?

you were also the one that thought it would melt if you shot more then 4 bps. so, if it cant handle 4 bps, how would it be able a steady stream of combusted propane?

something about a steady stream of combusted propane? What does that have to do with 4 bps? how would it be able what? You know I don't speak spanish. In english this time baxter.
3rd, it's Tippmann, the number one seller for tactical markers, and probably one of the most heard of company ever. They are allowed to make up crap and try to redefine the industry, because no matter what they will always sell stuff. Chances are this won't be too popular even if it is efficient. And I'm willing to bet that when accidents(zippos or smokers "accidentally" puncture the propane tank) and injuries happen, they will prohibit the sale of this "contraption". And even then, its a whole new gun, where any tech info you know about other guns is now useless, and im curious as to how they are doing lubricant for this, now that i think about it, because it would have to be non burning oil or something

[Glickman]

yes, first the gun did come onto me, but i told it that i was with your mom and she was somewhat better looking than it. 2ndly, what the hell did you try to say?

real mature, first, dont bust on my english (expecially because it is fine, i even dumb'ed it up all i could for you) since your's is incredibly incomprehensible

you ment to say. "Yes, at first i was attracted to the gun, but I told the gun that I was with your mom and told the gun that she was somewhat better looking then it."

yes, see, this is the stuff you will need to know in the next 4 years to pass your sat. yes, they do fail idiots like you.

"so, if it cant handle 4 bps, how would it be able a steady stream of combusted propane? "

to make a "flame thrower" you need a STREAM OF FLUID/GAS

OK? STILL GOT YOU?

NOW.. IF IT CANT CANT HANDLE "4 BPS" HOW WOULD IT HANDLE A STREAM BEYOND THAT?

you understand now?

as far as "banning of this contraption"

next, "In english this time baxter. "

actually, its the stereotypical name of "dexter" that commonly refers to someone of higher intellect then you. learn it.

as far as "puncturing the tank"

psi in a co2 tank: 800
psi in a hpa tank: up to 5000
psi in a propane tank: 120

then read up on the inital friction in joules required to not only break through steel, but ignite propane.

THEN look up into the amount of exaust and where it comes out of the C3 and how the ratio compares to an airsoft gas gun which ALSO USES PROPANE, and why it has be TESTED, TRIED AND TRUE FOR YEARS.


now go put some graphite on your gun and stfu'

dont bother posting back, i wont be able to see what you say. its one thing if you post hard, and give a good fight, but using "your mom" themes is just too immature.

[FooTemps]

Glick, lol, go easy on the kid. He seems to have maturity and intellect levels of a 10 year old...

Okay, maybe that was an insult to all 10 year olds.

Now onto the topic. The heat issue will be a huge hurdle IMO. Having a huge heatsink will just negate the weight of a tank so it wouldn't give much more than good efficiency at weight. There may even be a speed loss. I think heatpipes or some sort of heatsink is going to be one of the best ways to handle the heat but like I said, it's going to add the weight we lost from having a smaller tank.

[Glickman]

Glick, lol, go easy on the kid. He seems to have maturity and intellect levels of a 10 year old...

Okay, maybe that was an insult to all 10 year olds.

Now onto the topic. The heat issue will be a huge hurdle IMO. Having a huge heatsink will just negate the weight of a tank so it wouldn't give much more than good efficiency at weight. There may even be a speed loss. I think heatpipes or some sort of heatsink is going to be one of the best ways to handle the heat but like I said, it's going to add the weight we lost from having a smaller tank.

[fire7882]

I thinke the heat problem could be solved fairly eaisly with the use of insulating the combustion chamber with a materiel that dosn't heat up easily and dosnt't burn. Ceramics, for example, don't absorb heat as well as metal(I think) so most of the heat would be discharged with the exhaust.

[Coralis]

yeah ceramics have some pretty impressive heat transfer characteristics but most tend to be brittle , it would suck to drop your marker and have it shatter . I suppose thats probably going to hold the BPS down until so one figures out how to disapate the heat .

[mobsterboy]

Ok, mister Glickman, sir. To start off, I was quoting a line from the movie Anchorman when I stated, "In English this time Baxter." Next time you string up a sentence like the one I previously underlined, try to be more definitive when describing a "stream". If you go back and look at your own diction, to an innocent bystander, they would simply think you had gone off the deep end. I, sir, did not fail the SAT, and neither did I know that they failed idiots. So this must either be of a false accordance or from personal experience. Now I could talk this way in all my posts, but, as I have found in my English class, it is not appreciated (I can write better than my English teacher can read). Now, to the issue of me having the maturity and intellect levels of a 10 year old. Well, not much to say there except I'm 17 and if it was true, I would hav ethe intellect level of a 10 year old, not the intellect levels. Levels with the "s" you so fondly put in would inquire that 10 year old(note the singular) was a plural statement. Since it was not, I now state that what you just said is like "The pot calling the kettle black." In a simpler term, your grammar is atrocious. Oh wait, was that too big of a word for you


Yes, I know he blocked me, but it's truly sad that his ignorance is his downfall. Just as I actually started putting good sentences together on his behalf...

[FooTemps]

Ok, mister Glickman, sir. To start off, I was quoting a line from the movie Anchorman when I stated, "In English this time Baxter." Next time you string up a sentence like the one I previously underlined, try to be more definitive when describing a "stream". If you go back and look at your own diction, to an innocent bystander, they would simply think you had gone off the deep end. I, sir, did not fail the SAT, and neither did I know that they failed idiots. So this must either be of a false accordance or from personal experience. Now I could talk this way in all my posts, but, as I have found in my English class, it is not appreciated (I can write better than my English teacher can read). Now, to the issue of me having the maturity and intellect levels of a 10 year old. Well, not much to say there except I'm 17 and if it was true, I would hav ethe intellect level of a 10 year old, not the intellect levels. Levels with the "s" you so fondly put in would inquire that 10 year old(note the singular) was a plural statement. Since it was not, I now state that what you just said is like "The pot calling the kettle black." In a simpler term, your grammar is atrocious. Oh wait, was that too big of a word for you

Yes, I know he blocked me, but it's truly sad that his ignorance is his downfall. Just as I actually started putting good sentences together on his behalf...

To be honest you could try to talk your way out of being an idiot, but most of us really won't listen to any sort of counter argument you present since you left such a poor first impression on us. Our friend glick has more crediblity than you so of course we would take his side as opposed to taking your side.

And honestly, attcking my grammar doesn't bother me either since I'm not writing a term paper for you. Just because you can say you're 17 (most likely a junior in high school), doesn't mean you're on equal ground with many of us. This isn't PBNation, many AOers are old crusty folk or people who hate the immaturity of many other paintball related websites. Anyway, I'm a vehicle design major so english doesn't matter to me all that much.

Now, could you please concentrate on the topic of the thread instead of your need to prove yourself to AO.

edit: I felt like I was posting irrelevant material so here's somehting that relates to the topic

I thinke the heat problem could be solved fairly eaisly with the use of insulating the combustion chamber with a materiel that dosn't heat up easily and dosnt't burn. Ceramics, for example, don't absorb heat as well as metal(I think) so most of the heat would be discharged with the exhaust.

Any specific numbers on the heat characteristic of ceramics? I googled it but it didn't turn up a good resource.

[Glickman]

Any specific numbers on the heat characteristic of ceramics? I googled it but it didn't turn up a good resource.

"Paint-on Ceramic heat shielding"

"High Temperature exhaust gases from both turbine and piston engines are sometimes unavoidably close to parts of the airframe. Tailpipes and mufflers contain the flame but the convective heat can be too much for the surrounding balsa, plastic, or fiberglass structures."

ceramic is probably the best for the outer grip, although weight might be a problem, after all, what does a space shuttle need more then ceramic tiles?