Special Mod For Xmags/emags

[Mind'sEye]

i run RC boat which have a much higher drain than cars or heli's etc and i know lipo can push 60amps constant so that not an issue, the charging and explosive nature is much more problematic.

There's plenty of power in relatively small lightweight lipo's to do the job. They fit right into the battery housing, but IMO the danger of explosion is too great as in: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...hreadid=151687 If they were safer I would be running one in my Emag.

[tae]

Had video too!.

M.don, do you have any info on what you mentioned with advancements in batteries?

[M.Don]

http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/nec-develops-paperthin-battery/2005/12/12/1134235976295.html

or
hi amp Lithium Manganese (do a google)
or
Direct methanol fuel cells
or
hydrogen battery
or
Zinc Matrix Power Battery

it seems the whole battery thing is taking big leaps at the moment.

unrelated to my origional post but interesting not the less.

[swamphawk7]

hey all,

Just got my 1st Mag (E-Tac) and I'm not changing a thing

know this is drifting,but discussion seems to going a little toward batteries ...

I don't know much about mags ( pleased as can be with mine.)

but I have torture tested lithium polymer batts for a few years .

so just for giggles ,,,

Lihthium Polymer batteries are very safe if handled properly .

The cells are VERY light compare to Nmh or nicad cells ... that means MUCH more capacity for less weight and smaller form factor .

I have piles of them for RC aircraft generating 2kw+ ,,, no worries.

The E/X mag out of the box needs 14-18v to function properly correct ?

a 5s lipo pack is 18.5v 21v +/- charged
4s 14.8v 17v +/-

(s = series so 5s= 5 cells in series)

average discharge rate is 10-12c .

so for sake of discussion, a 1000 mah pack can safely deliver 10-12a+.

No worries there . Higher capacity = more available amperage

However, Lipos are most often used for RC apps in conjuction with ESC (electronic speed controllers)with progammable LVC (low voltage cutoff ) to insure the battery is not drained below rated V .

with no LVC in a paintball marker there is a risk of draining the battery, but with the proper pack it will not Explode ... you just won't be able to charge it .


wow , went WAY off topic with my 1st post ...

sorry 'bout that

~Take care all

[FooTemps]

hey all,

Just got my 1st Mag (E-Tac) and I'm not changing a thing

know this is drifting,but discussion seems to going a little toward batteries ...

I don't know much about mags ( pleased as can be with mine.)

but I have torture tested lithium polymer batts for a few years .

so just for giggles ,,,

Lihthium Polymer batteries are very safe if handled properly .

The cells are VERY light compare to Nmh or nicad cells ... that means MUCH more capacity for less weight and smaller form factor .

I have piles of them for RC aircraft generating 2kw+ ,,, no worries.

The E/X mag out of the box needs 14-18v to function properly correct ?

a 5s lipo pack is 18.5v 21v +/- charged
4s 14.8v 17v +/-

(s = series so 5s= 5 cells in series)

average discharge rate is 10-12c .

so for sake of discussion, a 1000 mah pack can safely deliver 10-12a+.

No worries there . Higher capacity = more available amperage

However, Lipos are most often used for RC apps in conjuction with ESC (electronic speed controllers)with progammable LVC (low voltage cutoff ) to insure the battery is not drained below rated V .

with no LVC in a paintball marker there is a risk of draining the battery, but with the proper pack it will not Explode ... you just won't be able to charge it .


wow , went WAY off topic with my 1st post ...

sorry 'bout that

~Take care all

Welcome to AO! Great way to start off making such an informed post. It's nice to see some fresh minds here.

Any idea how difficult it would be to put an LVC into markers? I was looking into lipo batteries for my e-y-grip project that I ditched but I just figured I'd just have to hope for no exploding.

[tyrion2323]

But no one mentions the most obvious way to reduce the emags weight... go remote. Or is that too un-agg?

It has nothing to do with being agg. Remotes suck, unless you're playing scenario or woods.

With a remote, you can't slide into bunkers as well, you have tubing wrapped all around your side, you can't switch hands on the fly, you don't have as stable of a shooting platform without the tank against your shoulder, you provide a larger shooting target for your oppponents, you have to wear a special harness which is both uncomfortable and doesn't stack the tubes properly, etc.

[Skoad]

Lets just say here at AO, we like to see things before we believe them. Also things work in theory but don't always work when tried. If whatever it is works, I'm sure he'll sell a bunch.

[M.Don]

i guess thats understand able after so many things either taking so long to appear or being stopped all together, but i wanted to get some feedback and perhaps some suggestions, i guess if someone goes to all this effort to develop Agd markers then it only makes sence to make sure you get everything right, and i thought you guys would be the people to talk too. so far not had too much in the way of features, but atleast its got a little more constructive. on the LVC it should be very simple to put one in there, perhaps a LED to warn that the voltage is low, alot us audable alarms, which would require even less work. i dont think lithium take too kindly to being banged around from what ive read though. i think i'll just rename this thread, guide to modern rechargable batteries. lol.

[Dark Side]

alternate/lighter power source: I want to see something involving fusion. Would make for some mighty interesting games.

[Tao]

I dont mind it so much but it would be cool to lose the weight of the batteries. I wouldnt want to replace the noid or anything like that though.

Like Big Evil said "choir boy noodle arms..." :P

I actually heard a guy who is closer to 300lbs than he is to 200 complain that a gun with a warp feed was too heavy for speedball.... :P

My friend runs an old school steel e mag with an 88CU tank and a warp. He doesn't complain

[tae]

Thank you for the info M.Don

[Ratt]

Here's a feature I would like: I would like it to have a tiny speaker attached to it. And every time I turned my Emag on, I would be greeted by Lindsey Lohan's sexy little voice, saying "Thank you for turning me on...now go kick some butt, you stud!" Seriously, I would like that. Alot.

[evildead420]

ZOMG!!!!111!!




Pics courtesy of Mav D Magman

personally...I like the battery pack...yeah its a little heavier...but I like the looks...

that used to be mine looks like its been through some battles. that mag sure did rip. it had 4.0 but i downed it to 3.2. has ACE and all ULE. uber light