Emag and speedball

[BigEvil]

Whats the more in more than keeps up?

See my post a few above with the Xmod clip in it.

[Lohman446]

See my post a few above with the Xmod clip in it.

Gonna have to clue me in, no video capability at the shop . Matrixes and EGOs are both capable of shooting as fast as a loader feeds, I'm wondering what more a mag can do.

[BigEvil]

Gonna have to clue me in, no video capability at the shop . Matrixes and EGOs are both capable of shooting as fast as a loader feeds, I'm wondering what more a mag can do.

Its just a short vid of Sean33's Xmag that I put the Xmod on. Its shooting on Full (auto) with the ROF set at 20.

I played this weekend with my ROF at 20 with nxl ramping. It was wicked fast and would appear to anyone looking, that it was keeping up with just about anything. (Not exceeding, but holding its own). I have a Halo with the Victory board on its highest setting and the gun kept up with it just fine. My Eyeless E-tac did as well, but I wouldnt fire long strings at 20bps cus quite frankly I know I would run into chopping issues.

Even if I could squeeze 23 or more bps out of my mags, I dont think I would. 20 was way too much IMO. I did play more with it at 17 and it seemed more than fast enough. Then again, I dont play tournies, so I cant speak for people who do.

Even some of my other guns (Angels) that were predatored I kept on 20 or below on the feild and just used the higher settings for showing off.

I think that this debate would be more easily settled if there was a simple way to install break beams in emags. No serious speedballer is going to buy a blind marker.

[Chaos_Theory!]

I think that this debate would be more easily settled if there was a simple way to install break beams in emags. No serious speedballer is going to buy a blind marker.

That along with more modes pretty much nails it.

[Recon by Fire]

Forget the "serious speedballer" your Emag will work great for playing speedball. The "serious" guys pretty much have their heads up you know where for the most part anyway IMHO. Don't concern yourself with them.

[Rudz]

emag/ xmod

my 12v warped emag with a cheetah boarded halo can keep up with anything its met so far...and im getting a new tank so i can adjust the output psi higher...now if there were an eye option we would be set..but its still fun when peoples jaws hit the groud at the emags newfound glorious speeds..go xmod...

[athomas]

I've used my emag in tounaments for years. It can keep up to any player. If players are using artificial enhancers, then we have that available as well. Again, we can keep up with our emags. When it comes to maintenance, thats where the emag really shines. I don't think there is a marker on the market that is as easy to maintain. In tournament play, reliability is very important. You have to know that your gun is going to be there at the start of the game and at the end of the game. Emags do provide that.

I'm not knocking other guns. I do have a Predator Angel and an Intimidator, just because. I never feel quite as secure with either gun as I do with the emag.

[etjoyride]

^^^

NOt trying to start anytihng here, but as far as maintitence(sp?) goes vikings could give emags a run for their money.

[REDRT]

My take on the Emag.

My take on the Emag is that it is great. Let as take for example your basic Emag sold right now on AGDs online store. ULE body, ULE lowers and light X valve. The over all weight is pretty light. About 2.7lbs to be exact minus barrel. For example a PM6 with ul frame and rail mounted asa weighs in at 2.4lbs minus barrel. Emag is in the ball park. To say it is heavy means you just don't know what your talking about. It has mech mode, hybrid mode and E modes. No other brand of markers gives you that. Some people hate the battery. Yet they still have an LPR or a gas through hanging down where the emags battery is on their markers. Nice to have something to grip. Don't like it take it off and run mechanical mode. Shaves off about 12oz for all you weight mongers. The valve is fast. no matter if you run the stock Emag valve or the lighter x valve its recharge rate with out shoot down is second to non. The valve is capable of so much more. Level 10 anti chop bolt. When fine tuned it will all but eliminate chops, when they are tuned. Many of times I have found people just didn't tune them 100% of their potential. Loads of custom parts, suppliers, AGD, AO make it one of the most customizable markers to date and friendly knowledgeable people backing you up along the way.
Now the bad. Everything has a bad. Emags are not cheap. Depending on just how far you want to go money is a draw back for some. Emags software is currently 3.2 AGD supported. It is fine for semi auto, but if you want ramping modes and so forth you have a few options to explore. Shaving off even more weight can be a costly venture depending on how far you are willing to go. Break beam eyes that have become so popular. My board supports them, but I feel they're not needed. Some differ with my opinion. More money to do them. By the time everything is said and done one could have a great deal of money invested in a total build up. That is probably why many shoot other markers that are cheaper from the get go with more modern options stock. I myself truely love the emag. It is my primary marker. I have spent alot of money building it to the point it is now and still more to come.
Conclusion. IMHO the emag is still a very fine marker even in stock form. Even for tournament level speedball. No real need to up grade much of anything playing NPPL rules. However tournaments playing PSP rules it lacks some features making it little less desirable of a marker in stock form. I say,"if you really like something stick with it". I may have twice as much in my Emag as others have in some other high end marker, but knowing I have some of the best customer support in the business, a marker that is reliable as old faithful and I know it like the back of my hand is almost priceless.

[Lohman446]

It has mech mode, hybrid mode and E modes. .

And is not legal to take on the field at say a NPPL event, even under the PSP rules having the selector switch becomes an issue.

[Vex]

And is not legal to take on the field at say a NPPL event, even under the PSP rules having the selector switch becomes an issue.

I don't understand this rule. Why is it illegal? Just because the battery dies, and you can switch it to mech mode, this is some sort of unfair advantage...?

[shades]

And is not legal to take on the field at say a NPPL event, even under the PSP rules having the selector switch becomes an issue.

I understand your point But... Tell me again WHY ramping is Legal in tourney play. Hybride mode should be then a non issue. dont you think? The rules should stay one pull, one shot.

Heres an idea i have never seen. a tourney lock out selector switch. mill off the nubbin (tenon) on the selector switch and replace it with a small slot for a small screw driver. small enough that it would be difficult to switch with a fingernail. a torex or haex maybe.

[Lohman446]

I understand your point But... Tell me agian WHY ramping is Legal in tourney play. Hybride mode should be then a non issue. dont you think?

Should be... I've considered the argument, hybrid is controllable, but not able to be capped. Remember NPPL is strict one shot one pull and PSP demands a 15BPS cap. You are not going to get either with hybrid mode available.

Phazeshifter, it is illegal because it allows you to get more than one shot per pull. You can effectively change settings while on the field and enter into the mech / electro hybrid mode.

[shades]

Phazeshifter, it is illegal because it allows you to get more than one shot per pull. You can effectively change settings while on the field and enter into the mech / electro hybrid mode.

But Ramping is also more than one shot per pull. Oh sure pull the trigger at six balls per sec
for more than a second then you go full auto at 15 balls per sec. this does not add up to one pull per shot.

[Lohman446]

But Ramping is also more than one shot per pull. Oh sure pull the trigger at six balls per sec
for more than a second then you go full auto at 15 balls per sec. this does not add up to one pull per shot.

NPPL = one shot one pull. No question that the hybrid mode does not comply.

PSP = Ramping allowed capped at 15BPS - no ability to cap.

It doesn't comply with either...