Emag and speedball

[REDRT]

And is not legal to take on the field at say a NPPL event, even under the PSP rules having the selector switch becomes an issue.

Ohh geez! Just pull the trigger rod then. I said NPPL rules not an NPPL event. I ment your adverage local tournament that alot of us play. Not everyone is the Great Lohman446 that knows all, plays all. Most people outside the mag community don't even know it these features exist in the first place. It is nice to have options even if sometimes you can't have them. It is the times you can that they come in handy.

[Lohman446]

Ohh geez! Just pull the trigger rod then. I said NPPL rules not an NPPL event. I ment your adverage local tournament that alot of us play.

So, was I wrong to think when you said NPPL rules that you meant NPPL rules? Just curious

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I like the E-mag for what it is, but I accept the limits of what it is as well. Mine had the trigger rods pulled. Though if I do recall one person on these ran into a jerk of a chrono ref who said the rod had to be there for the "manufacturer recommended chrono procedure".

[REDRT]

So, was I wrong to think when you said NPPL rules that you meant NPPL rules? Just curious

I'm not trying to be a jerk, I like the E-mag for what it is, but I accept the limits of what it is as well. Mine had the trigger rods pulled. Though if I do recall one person on these ran into a jerk of a chrono ref who said the rod had to be there for the "manufacturer recommended chrono procedure".

You tend to be too critical! Local tournaments at least around here state NPPL rules or PSP rules. NPPL meaning semi auto only and PSP ramping to 15bps is allowed basicly what it amounts to. Maybe in a bigger venue like an accual NPPL/PSP event it may be an issue, but it normally isn't the case playing the local fields.

You do come off as a jerk most of the time. The Emag is a good marker. No matter what the venue it can be set up in a legal way not causing a stink with the officals.

[Lohman446]

Maybe I need to drink more of the AO kool-ade?

Seriously, I have not discredited the e-mag for what it is, nor have I fallen into the hype that its the greatest thing out there. It is what it is, and I think I have been reasonable in trying to point that out on both sides.

/You did say NPPL rules... I took it to mean NPPL rules. Thought that was reasonable...

[SkyBoySurfer]

I play in NPPL and PSP with my Emag in the Am/Pro lvl.
I have a shocker 05 for a backup, but it never gets used. My Emag has never failed me.

If you wanna fix your sticky trigger, just raise the single magnet all the way to the top of the rail, it will feel awsome, then from there just aject the side triger mag for the HES.

I talk to people who absolutly HATE mags, untill they fire mine.

Im useing 4.1 software, I shoot faster then almost any gun out there, and I never ever get any **** from the refs at the turnys, the trigger will survive a drop test, but I have mine so light you cant tell when the DB hits in or if you are just pulling that much. in a single snap out of .5 secs I can shoot 12 balls. Mosty others barly make 7-10.

<3 the Emag

[hitech]

PSP = Ramping allowed capped at 15BPS - no ability to cap.

If you have your ROF set at the capped level then hybrid will also be capped. I don't understand why you think it would not be...

[Lohman446]

If you have your ROF set at the capped level then hybrid will also be capped. I don't understand why you think it would not be...

Never considered the ROF cap. Won't that only limit the cycles of the solenoid though and not take any consideration into the shots that are pulled manually by the rod?

[hitech]

Never considered the ROF cap. Won't that only limit the cycles of the solenoid though and not take any consideration into the shots that are pulled manually by the rod?

Yes, but when shooting in hybrid mode you are firing the marker electronicly and letting the trigger rod bounce your finger back. You don't fire mechanically.

[Lohman446]

Yes, but when shooting in hybrid mode you are firing the marker electronicly and letting the trigger rod bounce your finger back. You don't fire mechanically.

Really, mine always seemed to get two pulls as I pulled without letting any trigger return, I always assumed it was one from the electronics and one from the rod.

[hitech]

Really, mine always seemed to get two pulls as I pulled without letting any trigger return, I always assumed it was one from the electronics and one from the rod.

Yes it is. However that is not how hybrid mode is typically used to shoot fast. I don't know how fast one could shoot that way.

[Lohman446]

Yes it is. However that is not how hybrid mode is typically used to shoot fast. I don't know how fast one could shoot that way.

I see what you are saying, but you would have a hard time making it comply to the rules. Pretty hard to have something and convince a ref you just won't use it.

I remember chronoing two e-mags at PSP a few years ago. The ref looked at the two we carried up and told us he could make any e-mag bounce. Mine the trigger rod was pulled in and he couldn't get it, my teammates had a full length trigger pull (really really long) and no battery, couldn't get it. He just laughed about it then.

[REDRT]

Maybe I need to drink more of the AO kool-ade?

Maybe you need to get lost? That would be the day. The Emag is a good gun. Spend the money building it, making it even better. It can be just as good as any other marker. Maybe even better in some ways? I know in your opinion it could never be an equal to whatever it is you use on a daily bases. Fine, be a downer. You've probably done it first and done it better than anyone here. Your some kind of PB god! Who appointed you the say all, end all guy?
Sorry for blowing up on you, but sometime I get annoyed with peoples notions of the emag not being able to be MUCH better. It is like taking a muscle car and restomoding it with modern day equipment. A balance of old and new making it perform with the best of them. For the extreme overhaul it takes money no doubt, but it is possable. Not that isn't still a viable marker in the speedball arena.

[RavishingEddie]

Maybe you need to get lost? That would be the day. The Emag is a good gun. Spend the money building it, making it even better. It can be just as good as any other marker. Maybe even better in some ways? I know in your opinion it could never be an equal to whatever it is you use on a daily bases. Fine, be a downer. You've probably done it first and done it better than anyone here. Your some kind of PB god! Who appointed you the say all, end all guy?
Sorry for blowing up on you, but sometime I get annoyed with peoples notions of the emag not being able to be MUCH better. It is like taking a muscle car and restomoding it with modern day equipment. A balance of old and new making it perform with the best of them. For the extreme overhaul it takes money no doubt, but it is possable. Not that isn't still a viable marker in the speedball arena.

Thanks for all the posts guys I just finished reading them all. and REDRT, you are right about the muscle car thing with modern equipment. I first started off by, buying 2 emags and switching out the parts that I wanted then sold the emag I didn't need. I then anodized the rest of the parts. I am waiting for the fireblade trigger which still hasn't arrived(5 days) I like the way the Emag feels and looks and it is 3/4 done. I just have to finish installing the Xmod. My friends tell me I'm crazy and why I didn't just buy a new gun with all the money I have spent and they even talk about how my gun will suck when finished, but I don't listen to them. I just tell them that a gun is like sex. They like to just get it done fast, while I prefer to juicer up and get done right the first time.

They haven't seen my gun since I have kept it a secret, but when I am finished I promise that AO will see it first.

[warpspyder]

I see what you are saying, but you would have a hard time making it comply to the rules. Pretty hard to have something and convince a ref you just won't use it.

I remember chronoing two e-mags at PSP a few years ago. The ref looked at the two we carried up and told us he could make any e-mag bounce. Mine the trigger rod was pulled in and he couldn't get it, my teammates had a full length trigger pull (really really long) and no battery, couldn't get it. He just laughed about it then.

When you're bouncing it in hybrid mode you're not actually firing the gun mechnaically. The trigger rod is bouncing the trigger back to the set position, then the pressure you have on your finger is bringing it back passed the HES sensor, thus firing the marker and repeating the process. It is very unlikely if you're using bounce in hybrid mode you're pulling hard enough to cycle the marker mechanically.

[MoeMag]

I was catching up and saw this...

as far as the trigger magnets go take both out of the frame put an o ring in the hole the add one mag back the trigger becomes verrrrrrry walkable

WOW! Just did that... OMG! Never knew that, THANKS.


Yeah, e-mag can still hold its own in speedball!