Borg > Viking or vice versa?

[SpecialBlend2786]

Just want opinions and stuff. I know there are many Viking fans on AO, and personally I love Borgs. I was just wondering (since i apparently don't know jack about Vikings) what an 04 Tadao's viking would have over a partially upped 05 Cyborg?

So far I can list better electronics due to Tadao, but there's a Tadao board out for Borgs as well...

Efficiency might go to the Viking as well, but I'm not sure. Also I like the fact that Vikings don't use hosing but have the passages drilled out.

Basically I really want a Viking but my brain is struggling to come up with a reason for it to be better than a Cyborg.

OPINIONS PLEASE

And I promise this will be my last vs thread in ever. superpromise

[Cow hunter]

well ive had expierence around vikings (friend owns a full mill '04 and one of the original highlanders) and i must say they are darn near perfection, a full case or more off a 68/45 is hard to beat, and with the tadao it has great software, but the borg does look a tad more interesting, and after seeing the milled one i must say it was one of the nicest looking markers ive seen.... they are a great comparison, pretty even on all standards....

[rkjunior303]

They call Vikings Stacked tubed Borgs for a reason.

Either one is a great buy. I prefer my borg over the viking I had, due to the size (even my DC viking).

[slade]

borgs are better.

vikings are huge, and dont really have any clear advantage over a borg.

[SpecialBlend2786]

They call Vikings Stacked tubed Borgs for a reason.

Either one is a great buy. I prefer my borg over the viking I had, due to the size (even my DC viking).

Was the size the only issue? I'm guessing due to your first comment that everything else is basically the same. I always thought of Vikings being similar to Angels because of the arrangment of the tubes (of course, the noid isn't right behind the bolt like in an angel).

Also I forgot to add this: I'm going to force myself to actually hold on to this gun, so it will be the last marker I get for a good long while.

[CoolHand]

Unless you get a first gen Cyborg, the Viking will be cheaper.

They will run forever too, i've got an '03 which is approaching 100 cases while in my possesion, and it was WELL used before I bought it. Still sings like a teeny bopper.

Also, on the '05 and older borgs, the trigger geometry sucks. IMO the feel was horrible. I haven't handled a new one though, so I can't say if they fixed it or not.

[rkjunior303]

Unless you get a first gen Cyborg, the Viking will be cheaper.

They will run forever too, i've got an '03 which is approaching 100 cases while in my possesion, and it was WELL used before I bought it. Still sings like a teeny bopper.

Also, on the '05 and older borgs, the trigger geometry sucks. IMO the feel was horrible. I haven't handled a new one though, so I can't say if they fixed it or not.

Coolhand, I thought the same thing until DC removed the internal stop at the top of the trigger -- it totally changed how the trigger felt.

Borg's are stacked-tubed vikings, rather. I screwed up what I was saying -- but honestly, they both are great markers made by great companies.

[paint magnet]

I liked the way my Viking shot a whole lot better than a Borg (this was in 04 though). The thing was damn near bulletproof and shot darts all day long.

The only disadvantage IMO is that they're discontinued.

[WenULiVeUdiE]

Some advantages over 05 'Borgs are:
No hosing - You no longer have to worry about proper hose alignment, which can interfere with the trigger.
Trigger Geometry- Aka's 45 frame is one of the best ever produced. Way past that of the 05 Cyborg.
Maintenance- Although this is not a big one, it is still valid. Viking requires 3 drops of oil before every day of play. An 05 Borg requires alittle more. Lube the ram and some tri-flow on the bolt, which is not hard.

You can't go wrong. Go with what is cheaper, which is the Viking.

[slade]

Coolhand, I thought the same thing until DC removed the internal stop at the top of the trigger -- it totally changed how the trigger felt.

what exactly did DC remove?

my trigger is fine, but i actually loved the feel of marc's... then again, his wasnt exactly legal.

[rkjunior303]

what exactly did DC remove?

my trigger is fine, but i actually loved the feel of marc's... then again, his wasnt exactly legal.

there's a stop for the forward travel. DC changed that up.

[slade]

there's a stop for the forward travel. DC changed that up.

? oh well, on my trigger the forward stop is limited by the trigger itself, you'd need to file or mill the trigger to change it.

[slade]

Some advantages over 05 'Borgs are:
No hosing - You no longer have to worry about proper hose alignment, which can interfere with the trigger.
Trigger Geometry- Aka's 45 frame is one of the best ever produced. Way past that of the 05 Cyborg.
Maintenance- Although this is not a big one, it is still valid. Viking rewuires 3 drops of oil before every day of play. An 05 Borg requires alittle more. Lube the ram and some tri-flow on the bolt, which is not hard.

You can't go wrong. Go with what is cheaper, which is the Viking.

you play back, i take it?

[WenULiVeUdiE]

you play back, i take it?

Well, when I bought the Viking I did. However, according to my team I am going to be playing front this season.

[punkncat]

Also I forgot to add this: I'm going to force myself to actually hold on to this gun, so it will be the last marker I get for a good long while.

Hey....GOOD LUCK with that one. As one gun whore to another !!!!!!