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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #16
    Originally posted by FiXeL
    It is a bit harsh to say, but if AGD keeps this up they will go the way of the dodo.. .
    Yeh - just like Palmers...

    /Oh wait
    //You mean niche marketting might work?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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    • Skittle
      Insert clever phrase here
      • May 2002
      • 305

      #17
      Originally posted by Lohman446
      Yeh - just like Palmers...

      /Oh wait
      //You mean niche marketting might work?

      No matter where I go or what thread I'm in you are always smashing someone with the sledgehammer of fallacy.

      *edit* high five
      Skittle- Your partner in crime.

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      • RapidTransit
        E-Body Man
        • Jun 2004
        • 400

        #18
        Originally posted by FiXeL
        Compared to other paintball companies, AGD is very quiet when it comes to new products and innovation. Even AGD Europe for that matter. I really hate to say this, but i feel like buisness is not going well for AGD at the moment...

        Offcource i don't know what's going on, but the way they do buisness is a bit odd they sell to the goverment.

        - They don't make and release new markers since the xmag to the public
        - Their european webshop was updated like 2 years ago? (nut who cares?)
        - Relying on niche marketing and word of mouth by a bunch of crazy people which is the best marketing

        but if AGD keeps this up they will suceed..

        Even though AGD is not a very big company, i think there is alot of potential going to waste on selling to the goverment and not enough to consumers
        Fixed it for you.
        Gun: AGD eMag with LvL10
        Cars: 1991 Lexus LS400. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-4, Auto, 1 of 816. 1970 Dodge Challenger 318 S/E, soon to be a 440-6 with a 5 speed, and painted Sublime green

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        • Bigman
          Registered User
          • Jul 2004
          • 32

          #19
          The last marker I heard that AGD was producing was a less than lethal for the government... I wonder how much R&D they're actually putting into the consumer market nowa days...

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          • jsdatjsd
            Registered User
            • Jun 2006
            • 130

            #20
            Originally posted by c0rpse
            Does this have anything to do with the words chuff chuff
            It hasn't been announced yet, but the new marker is coming out later this year.

            Yes its electro.

            No, it doesn't use the x valve. Its all solenoid operated. 4 solenoids to be exact.

            Its a bit heavy.

            Its closed bolt (seriously, who would have thougth AGD would make a closed bolt?)

            It has an anti chop eye, with technology licensed form an elevator manufacturer. Elevators have been using anti-chop technology for decades.

            No, none of the old parts fits on any of the new gun.

            It uses an 18v lithium ion battery. No pun or relation to SP ION.

            The problem they are having is getting 4 'noids working for 2000 shots on one battery charge.

            And as for the new name, it is going to be called.....

            AGD presents!!!

            CHUFF-O-MATIC!!!!!!

            With 45 CPS (chuffs per second) it is sure to be a tourney favorite for years to come.

            JD

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            • REDRT
              Mags, Y use anything else
              • Apr 2004
              • 1854

              #21
              Tom walked away from his own company, and for the most part I feel that is the problem. Prior to that there was some development, but it seems to me when Tom lost his drive so did the company. I'd much rather see AGD just seriously try to be the company they once were insted of dieing the slow death.

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              • Recon by Fire
                Enimo Et Fide
                • Mar 2003
                • 1706

                #22
                I just wish AGD would stop going out of business about 10 times a year...






                Almost forgot the banana:

                AGD X-Mag #XT00187
                AGD Tac-One
                WGP 2003
                Marker Pics

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                • Army
                  Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                  • Oct 2000
                  • 5785

                  #23
                  Originally posted by REDRT
                  Tom walked away from his own company, and for the most part I feel that is the problem. Prior to that there was some development, but it seems to me when Tom lost his drive so did the company. I'd much rather see AGD just seriously try to be the company they once were insted of dieing the slow death.
                  Tom sold the stock to Dave, and stepped down as President of AGD.

                  Tom still very much owns AGD and its affiliate companies.

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                  • robnix
                    email robnix@gmail
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 2094

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Recon by Fire
                    I just wish AGD would stop going out of business about 10 times a year...






                    Almost forgot the banana:
                    Everytime I hear..."Are they still around?"

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                    • REDRT
                      Mags, Y use anything else
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 1854

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Army
                      Tom sold the stock to Dave, and stepped down as President of AGD.

                      Tom still very much owns AGD and its affiliate companies.
                      I never said he didn't still own the company. He did however walk away from it. The company isn't what it once was and I think it has alot to do with it. AGD doesn't try to be a competitive. Doesn't try to be anything shall I say it, "a has been". Seems they're content being open period. That maybe ok, but the potential of the company is far greater than that. I feel the "ho humm" attitude hit the company wide. I really don't think they have direction or drive anymore. Maybe with a fresh "can do attitude" with a stand up leader with vision can AGD rise up and show the industry they still have it. AGD was one of the founding companies to the sport. Still being around when so many are gone is a true testiment they where doing more than something right. Times have changed though and their reputation alone isn't going to cut it forever.

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                      • dreadpirate
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 70

                        #26
                        Originally posted by REDRT
                        I never said he didn't still own the company. He did however walk away from it. The company isn't what it once was and I think it has alot to do with it. AGD doesn't try to be a competitive. Doesn't try to be anything shall I say it, "a has been". Seems they're content being open period. That maybe ok, but the potential of the company is far greater than that. I feel the "ho humm" attitude hit the company wide. I really don't think they have direction or drive anymore. Maybe with a fresh "can do attitude" with a stand up leader with vision can AGD rise up and show the industry they still have it. AGD was one of the founding companies to the sport. Still being around when so many are gone is a true testiment they where doing more than something right. Times have changed though and their reputation alone isn't going to cut it forever.
                        Yeah, every time I bring my RT out to the field I get a bunch of 'wow, what is that?'s. Granted its nice to have all the highschoolers thinking I have some sort of exclusive, rare gun that looks like their ions, only prettier and lighter, but I remember when I was in highschool, we -all- knew, and to some extent, feared the automag.

                        As for governemtn products, has anyone seen the semi-auto version of the teargas-ball shooters some police have? Seems a bolt that -never- chops paint would be very desirable for that sort of use.

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                        • Chooie
                          WCP Scenario Paintball
                          • May 2006
                          • 32

                          #27
                          Dread, I've shot some of those capsacin/pepper balls out of my mag... Well, I haven't, but I loaned it to my brother in law for use at the sheriff's office because their marker was on the fritz. They work beautifully, and I still have a tube of 10 left for... defense. Right.

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                          • RapidTransit
                            E-Body Man
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 400

                            #28
                            Tom has said time and time again he fell into the buisiness by accident, he has other hobby's that consume his time and frankly he dosn't want to deal with an industry that causes one huge headache.
                            Gun: AGD eMag with LvL10
                            Cars: 1991 Lexus LS400. 1970 Plymouth 'Cuda 440-4, Auto, 1 of 816. 1970 Dodge Challenger 318 S/E, soon to be a 440-6 with a 5 speed, and painted Sublime green

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                            • slade
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 3442

                              #29
                              Originally posted by FiXeL
                              Compared to other paintball companies, AGD is very quiet when it comes to new products and innovation. Even AGD Europe for that matter. I really hate to say this, but i feel like buisness is not going well for AGD at the moment...
                              i wish buisness wasnt going well for AGD, because then we wouldnt have new people constantly buying there products, and new people constantly joining this forum, and new people repeating this same damn question over and over. sheesh, cant we have a sticky or something by now?
                              xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                              68/30 PE nitro tank
                              cp unimount
                              halo B

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                              • slade
                                Carpe Noctem
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 3442

                                #30
                                Originally posted by RapidTransit
                                Tom has said time and time again he fell into the buisiness by accident, he has other hobby's that consume his time and frankly he dosn't want to deal with an industry that causes one huge headache.
                                not really accident, he was forced to due to financial reasons.
                                xvalve, ule body, logic vert frame, WWA barrel
                                68/30 PE nitro tank
                                cp unimount
                                halo B

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