AGD as a company

[REDRT]

Hey,

I checked every single one of the dealer links.

Of the few dozen links, only a half dozen or so actually sell anything AGD, and NONE sell AGD markers. A few sell the flatline, and a few more the warp. That's it.

Me sad.

Nobody wants mags hanging in their store. They don't sell good.

[Lohman446]

Let us see. For anyone currently employed by AGD. Are you truely satisfied with the companies position in the industry? Or do you feel it is high time to call the exterminator to clear a path to the R&D lab and invent tomorrows mag?

Anyone employed by AGD are not the ones making the decisions. Until TK (or Dave, though I think TK still owns AGD) decide that they want AGD to be in a different position they are going to be where they are now. Look at the changes from the 90's until now. In 1990 TK did not have as much to risk as he does now - meaning you could take more chances as the risk to reward ratio was skewed by less to risk. TK now is far more successful and has other things on his plate. To risk what he has now for a game does not satisfy his risk to reward needs. Its his choice and all the wishing and whining about it on a message board is not going to change that.

I've got an idea. TK has hinted in the past the paintball portion of AGD is available for purchase. Get the right group together, get the money together, and buy it from him. Make whatever changes you feel you want once you own it.

[jsdatjsd]

I've got an idea. TK has hinted in the past the paintball portion of AGD is available for purchase. Get the right group together, get the money together, and buy it from him. Make whatever changes you feel you want once you own it.

To tell the truth, all they need is a current web presence, not new management. Probably 3/4 of the times people have corrected me was because I was misinformed by the AGD website.

That's all...

JD

[SCpoloRicker]

OH NOES!! AGD is going out of business!1

[hitech]

I knew of a guy who picked up a brand new Gloss Black X-Mag for $500, ~9 months ago from a retail shop.

And you didn't tell me about it first?!?!

[REDRT]

Anyone employed by AGD are not the ones making the decisions. Until TK (or Dave, though I think TK still owns AGD) decide that they want AGD to be in a different position they are going to be where they are now.

I've got an idea. TK has hinted in the past the paintball portion of AGD is available for purchase. Get the right group together, get the money together, and buy it from him. Make whatever changes you feel you want once you own it.

You snooze you lose is the saying. Personally I don't think there is much decision making going on period. Tom lost his passion for this business and is doing everything but helping his own company better itself. Dave is a puppet keeping it going.

If I found the means to buy it I really would. I might even hire you. So I could make you my puppet and pitch you to the curb when I tire of you.

[murder-soul]

all they need to do is clear and simple, make a mq rip off combined with an lpr that would go along with the mq and replace the level 10. Make it fully electro pneumatic, the create a super ul body and rail making it weight much less. Put a 90* devil mag style frame on it or the abliity to put a ul frame on it (but avoid a lawsuite) and bamn its the next big thing. Efficent, light, small, fast. This is what people want, and thats what agd is gonna have to do to reclaim maket share

[REDRT]

Interestingly, they sell pretty good. You just gotta know what you have, the type of customer to sell to, and their true value.

I knew of a guy who picked up a brand new Gloss Black X-Mag for $500, ~9 months ago from a retail shop. It was hanging on their wall since they were available a few years back. That marker would easily have sold on ebay for twice that. The shop owner just didnt put forth the effort.

Most pb shops expect their inventory to sell itself. Which is why many shops dont last long. Sales, like any other profession, isnt easy... or everyone would be doing it.

Almost anyone can sell an Xmag for alot more, but how's about an rt or minimag? There has been alot of super sweet marker for sale and finally sold for parts to try to break even.

Take my friends paintball shop. It is in a resort town. Advertage beater car is 55-95k. Most of the people that come into his store have the cash to buy what ever they want. They either want high end everything or they are rambo weekenders and go for the tippmann customs. Anyone who might know what a mag is don't care buy one. Most don't want something that isn't popular. OK the store futher down the road. Has some mag parts, RTpro and a minimag. They have been on the shelf for who knows how long. They were bought new by the store when the cost of mags were much higher. They didn't sell then and now the valve has come down less then what was paid originally. Instead of selling at a lose there they sit. They will never sell. I've told my friend if he has a customer that ever wants to trade a CnC Xmag in some color that I'd like for a whatever high end marker he has on the shelf, I'd buy the Xmag. I'm his only mag customer. He'd go broke having mag inventory on hand just for me. I'd bet here on AO less than half of us even have mags. My point is there is less and less of us daily. Retal stores don't want to stock products that don't make them money. We have a company that does seem to think they need to do anything anymore. I must not be the only person that feels change is needed to keep the company strong. I must not be the only one who gives a damn!

[c0rpse]

Who doesn't feel that way?

[jsdatjsd]

Who doesn't feel that way?

The CEO of smart parts?

Just a guess....

[REDRT]

I would really like to see AGD do something, anything as far as development it a new marker. Maybe a new E-class or a super dooper mech mag. I think if one could change their image in the right direction even a little they could/woud be more successful. There is the basic reason why anybody buys something, "need and want". If one could market the mag in such a way to make it seem it was all that and more and make it stick then you would have something. Gandhi motivated his people, Dr. King ralleyed 1000's. I'd bet with out a doubt the power of suggestion if done right through advertisment could sell a mag 2 to 1 over other compairable markers. They really don't have to be better or as new though little things like that would help. It is getting people to know the product, then believe in the product. It doesn't matter if the product is any good as long as the people keep coming back like cattle. People are stupid. How many people smoke? By now people should know they are going to die and are warned on every pack. Yet they smoke. More and more start daily. It is crazy what image and the power of suggestion can achieve. Let it work for us. Let it work for AGD.

Don't believe me. If I type, "dadah da da dah I'm lovin' it. " you know what I'm talking about.

[Arstron]

Let us see. For anyone currently employed by AGD. Are you truely satisfied with the companies position in the industry? Or do you feel it is high time to call the exterminator to clear a path to the R&D lab and invent tomorrows mag?

Dont forget that agd makes more then just paintball markers, they have a couple contracts with the government for their less lethal guns. I am sure they arent having a problem paying the bills yet.

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Dont forget that agd makes more then just paintball markers, they have a couple contracts with the government for their less lethal guns. I am sure they arent having a problem paying the bills yet.

Well this isn't one of them going out of business threads. AGD has that to keep them above water yes, but isn't it a shame they can't seem to get it together and have a paintball product that is new? Would this work? Look here government commitee people. It is the same thing we sold you 10 years ago, only we had eliminate a few custom things that you got in the past, but you didn't want them anyway. We went ahead with out asking since your are our only real customer anyway. We think we know what you what, but we'll dictate what you want just the same. Hey we made it slightly cheaper for you.

[muskratjim]

"Dont forget that agd makes more then just paintball markers, they have a couple contracts with the government for their less lethal guns. I am sure they arent having a problem paying the bills yet. "


and there lies the problem. company's that have a good steady income do not need to be inovative because its human nature to be lazy. if your bill are getting paid and you have your fun money don't tell me you would work any harder than you have to

[REDRT]

"Dont forget that agd makes more then just paintball markers, they have a couple contracts with the government for their less lethal guns. I am sure they arent having a problem paying the bills yet. "

and there lies the problem. company's that have a good steady income do not need to be inovative because its human nature to be lazy. if your bill are getting paid and you have your fun money don't tell me you would work any harder than you have to

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