Worrisome marker features - what do you think?

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  • Lohman446
    Useful posts: 7
    • Jun 2003
    • 9315

    #1

    Worrisome marker features - what do you think?

    I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS. I did happen to read something though in the owners manual that concerned me

    If the trigger is not tuned very very carefully to avoid it, and the user has set it right, they can hold the trigger in one certain spot and the marker goes full auto.

    When in this full auto mode, if you have not used an obscure setting to chrono it, the marker will rise far above the chronoed at speed. Users have reported 10FPS and higher spikes.

    What do you think AO?
    "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess
  • SCpoloRicker
    HA HA I'm custom!!1
    • Jan 2004
    • 4375

    #2
    God....I guess I was probably returning videotapes.

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    • the123
      JJ's Master
      • May 2001
      • 736

      #3
      Originally posted by Lohman446
      I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS. I did happen to read something though in the owners manual that concerned me

      If the trigger is not tuned very very carefully to avoid it, and the user has set it right, they can hold the trigger in one certain spot and the marker goes full auto.

      When in this full auto mode, if you have not used an obscure setting to chrono it, the marker will rise far above the chronoed at speed. Users have reported 10FPS and higher spikes.

      What do you think AO?
      Reminds me of an RT valve, if the marker is not chronoed by using the set procedure, fps can be higher than the safe, legal limit. Which piece of machinery did you test?

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      • 1337caesar
        Da 1337 Machine
        • Apr 2005
        • 238

        #4
        Originally posted by Lohman446
        I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS. I did happen to read something though in the owners manual that concerned me

        If the trigger is not tuned very very carefully to avoid it, and the user has set it right, they can hold the trigger in one certain spot and the marker goes full auto.

        When in this full auto mode, if you have not used an obscure setting to chrono it, the marker will rise far above the chronoed at speed. Users have reported 10FPS and higher spikes.

        What do you think AO?

        Sounds dangerous. we should ban them and force the company who makes them to produce a new high end electro even better than the last one they released...

        if only it was so easy....

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        • behemoth
          SVSTC?
          • Nov 2002
          • 7750

          #5
          Originally posted by SCpoloRicker
          qft.

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          • iambored
            I dare YOU to think!
            • Jul 2006
            • 463

            #6
            Where do you get the mexican owl pics? And can't you do that with any poorly tuned electro
            (I'm no electro expert)

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            • bentothejam1n
              Support our troops
              • Oct 2005
              • 1428

              #7
              Originally posted by Lohman446
              I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS. I did happen to read something though in the owners manual that concerned me

              If the trigger is not tuned very very carefully to avoid it, and the user has set it right, they can hold the trigger in one certain spot and the marker goes full auto.

              When in this full auto mode, if you have not used an obscure setting to chrono it, the marker will rise far above the chronoed at speed. Users have reported 10FPS and higher spikes.

              What do you think AO?
              What gun is it? Some ramping isnt that much different like mode 3 and 4 on my tadao'd borg. i forget what the mode is called but its psp or nxl. i personally dont care if some one was shooting full auto. It probably takes them longer to refill their hopper than to shoot it, well atleast the people i play with
              ahh i feel stupid
              Last edited by bentothejam1n; 09-12-2006, 07:29 PM.

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              • CKY_Alliance
                Team Deranged
                • Jan 2005
                • 1695

                #8
                Originally posted by bentothejam1n
                What gun is it? Some ramping isnt that much different like mode 3 and 4 on my tadao'd borg. i forget what the mode is called but its psp or nxl. i personally dont care if some one was shooting full auto. It probably takes them longer to re
                fill their hopper than to shoot it, well atleast the people i play with

                its not the ramping that is worrisome..its the verlocity increase...but idk if its only 10-20 then chrono it lower then legal limit so it rises to that..but most people wouldnt be considerate enough to do that, ive been shot with like 320-330+ it hurts but not much worse then 300...wasnt ramping velocity becoming pretty popular not long ago? Like didnt people start making boards that could do this..i guess by changing the dwell? well i say that in past tense but it may still be very present...the manufactuer should work on that, there got to be a fix, they just dont want to spend the money for the R&D.

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                • ahellers
                  USCG "I save lives"
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 681

                  #9
                  umm. i could be wrong but i belive hes talking about an automag with an RT or X valve
                  t

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                  • wjr
                    Registered User
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 995

                    #10
                    I feel a bit behind the curve here... but isn't he talking about the E-mag?

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                    • Head knight of Ni
                      Silly K-niggits
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 1032

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Lohman446
                      I recently had the chance to test one of the most amazing pieces of machinery available to paintball players. It was an awesome marker, capable of nearly 40BPS. I did happen to read something though in the owners manual that concerned me

                      If the trigger is not tuned very very carefully to avoid it, and the user has set it right, they can hold the trigger in one certain spot and the marker goes full auto.

                      When in this full auto mode, if you have not used an obscure setting to chrono it, the marker will rise far above the chronoed at speed. Users have reported 10FPS and higher spikes.

                      What do you think AO?
                      Talking in ifs is fine and well. The on-field experiences show us otherwise. When fields open at 9 am and don't require CO2 users to re-chronograph at 2 pm with 10-30 degree differences then we can call-out the more obscure problems.

                      PS- You're not that sneaky.
                      March 15
                      The only good Tedi is a dead Tedi.Conker:Live&Reloaded

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                      • ahellers
                        USCG "I save lives"
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 681

                        #12
                        so do we get a prize for figuring it out now?
                        t

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                        • Head knight of Ni
                          Silly K-niggits
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 1032

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ahellers
                          so do we get a prize for figuring it out now?
                          t
                          *cough*RT/X-valve*cough*
                          March 15
                          The only good Tedi is a dead Tedi.Conker:Live&Reloaded

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                          • lather
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 591

                            #14
                            I think you are talking about an RT valved Mag.

                            Although, any velocity spikes are highly dependent on the amount of input pressure to the RT/X valve.

                            Though technically you can increase velocity with an Electro that has a board with an ABS feature. (Increases dwell time of the first shot if the gun hasnt been shot for a user defined unit of time to eliminate FSDO). But thats one shot at a higher velocity after every 5-10 secs of non shooting at least.
                            Last edited by lather; 09-12-2006, 07:26 PM.
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                            • dahoeb
                              Registered User

                              • Jul 2004
                              • 862

                              #15
                              i think i see what youre getting at, Lohman....
                              in my "piece of machinery", even when i sweet spot it and get it going full auto, its still slower than people with other ramping "pieces of machinery" and when i release the trigger it immediately stops, no extra rounds flying out like with ramping.
                              and if my "piece of machinery" does go up in velocity, i've never noticed.

                              either way, the only time i can sweet spot a "piece of machinery" to go full auto is in the staging area, if i really try; even then its only like 3 rounds before i lose it.....
                              i have really slow fingers so i can never get my machinery to shoot fast .....

                              unless you have the pressure cranked up, its very hard to get those conditions in-game. i'd be a lot more worried about boards that are MADE TO do exactly what you described, instead of being just some weird by-product of its operation
                              Last edited by dahoeb; 09-12-2006, 07:47 PM.

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